Christianity,  Theology/Bible

Piper and Mohler at ETS

Panel

John Piper and Albert Mohler sat on a panel last week at ETS to discuss a recent effort to bridge the theological divide between Muslims and Christians. The effort resulted in a document titled “A Common Word Between Us,” and I wrote about it in early 2008 (read it here).

I was at the panel discussion which featured two Muslim scholars and one Christian scholar in favor of the proposal, and Piper and Mohler who were opposed. Desiring God has made the audio available, and I commend it to you. J. P. Moreland moderated the discussion, and I have arranged the audio below to reflect the original order of presenters.

Muslim Perspectives on the Writing of “A Common Word”
[audio:http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_1.mp3]

Christian Defenses of the Yale Response to “A Common Word”
[audio:http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_2.mp3]

Piper and Mohler’s Responses to “A Common Word”
[audio:http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_3.mp3]

Q&A
[audio:http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_panel.mp3]

John Piper’s original 2008 response is below:

13 Comments

  • Paul

    I wasn’t suggesting this is old, I’m just confused at the first paragraph.

    It seems as though they spoke at the event last week, a document was produced, and you(Denny) wrote about it in 2008.

    time travel or am I missing something?

  • David Vinzant

    Paul,

    The effort and the document by Muslims to find some common ground with Christians were produced in 2007. Denny wrote about it in 2008. Piper, Mohler, et. al. discussed it last week.

  • David Vinzant

    The original document is worth reading:
    http://www.acommonword.com/lib/downloads/CW-Total-Final-v-12g-Eng-9-10-07.pdf

    It represented a remarkable willingess by leaders of Islam to find some common ground with Christians by emphasizing that both faiths teach love for God and love for neighbor as foundational principles.

    A group of Christians wrote a response applauding the Muslim hand of friendship and pledging the work to bring peace. That document was signed by over 300 prominent Christian leaders, including Leith Anderson, Stuart Briscoe, David Yonggi Cho, Timothy George, Joel Green, David Gushee, Carl Holladay, Bill Hybels, Scot McKnight, Brian McLaren, Richard Mouw, David Neff, John Stott, and Rick Warren.

    http://www.yale.edu/faith/acw/acw.htm

    Piper and Mohler felt it necessary to repudiate the entire enterprise.

  • Ali

    David Vinzant,

    Their disagreement is not without reason. Whether their reasons are right or wrong, would you have them jump on a bandwagon they didn’t actually believe in?

    I’m thankful that they are able and willing to provide their reasons for us to judge.

  • Patrick

    A genuine question – Why should we respond to a Muslim effort to establish what is common between “us and them” by simply establishing what distinguishes “us” from “them”? Both sides have been theologically well aware of what distinguishes the two faiths for more than a thousand years. Again, both sides are well aware.

    Is it time to think about our common interest in peaceful dialogue and human reconciliation. By reconciliation I do not mean reconciling the truth claims of Jesus with those of Mohammad. Muslims are just as interested in preserving the supremacy of Mohammad as we are of Jesus.

    Is there nothing we have in common?

  • Ali

    Well, Patrick, isn’t that the issue? The document asserts common ground that Piper and Mohler don’t agree is common. They (well, at least what I read of Piper) are happy to dialogue, but on the basis of what they’d consider actual commonalities.

    Nor do I think that concentrating solely on what is common is helpful. It distorts potential relations just as much (though in a different way) as concentrating solely on differences.

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