Rick Warren Talks about Gay Marriage with Piers Morgan

Everyone knows at this point that if you are a Christian and you’re on Piers Morgan’s show, he going to ask you about homosexuality (remember Kirk Cameron?). That was certainly the case with Rick Warren’s appearance on the program earlier this week (see below).

In this encounter, Morgan asks Warren if he believes gay people are born gay. Warren says that the verdict is still out on that question. Warren also argues that our moral assessment of homosexuality is not altered even if they are born that way. In other words, it’s a moot point in terms of determining the rightness or wrongness of homosexuality.

I think Morgan misses Warren’s point. But I’ll let you see for yourself below.


  • Dylan Valliere

    Morgan does miss Warren’s point. Morgan almost seems to be saying, “If you would accept the premise that homosexuality has genetic/biological roots, then you’d need to agree with me on the issue of homosexual marriage.”

    This, after Warren has already stated that such a link, if proven in time, would not make a difference. Morgan is so biased as to be unable to rationally consider what his opponents are saying.

  • Sam James

    Piers probably is using a kind of logic he’s not aware of. The entire point of the genetic predisposition debate is to establish parallelism between gay rights and civil rights. It goes like this:

    1) Race is congenial
    2) Sexual orientation is congenial
    3) Therefore, race is analogous to sexual orientation.

    Very few people actually EXPLICITLY say this because the African-American community is by and large to the right of center on this issue. It’s more popular to prophesy that those who oppose gay marriage now will find themselves commandeering the SS Irrelevant with George Wallace and Crew in a few years.

    The argument doesn’t hold up. But that’s probably where this interview is coming from.

  • John Gill

    It seems Morgan truly believes that one would naturally become convinced or more sympathetic to homosexual rights if one believed homosexuality was rooted in genetics or such. This isn’t surprising.

    On a different note, Morgan seems to be much more respectful to Warren than towards evangelical guests in the past, at least in this clip. I wonder if Warren’s visible efforts to care for people more holistically (AIDS, adoption, etc.), rather than only appearing to care about a single issue, keeps critics from depending on arguing from popular misconceptions of evangelicals. If so, a more visible concern for “all” the issues might help evangelicals have more constructive dialogue with opponents.

  • Matt Martin

    Here’s why Piers misses Rick’s point. Because Rick tries to compare homosexuality to violence (nose punching), adultery (attraction to women other than his wife) and poison (arsenic). He’s essentially comparing consenting adults to non-consenting adults. The comparison isn’t equal.

    • Andy Moffat

      The fact that two consenting adults are involved in a homosexual act does not mean that someone has not been aggrieved. Though two people may themselves be happy with their actions, God still isn’t. Regardless of what we think about our sin, God is still offended. So Rick Warren’s examples do hold true, because in any instance of sin, it’s not our views that count, but God’s – He is the first on the list of the offended, whether anyone else counts themselves on that list or not.

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