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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egalitarianism and women&#039;s ordination is not necessarily theological liberalism. Perhaps is liberalism anything goes, but one can be egalitarian and support women&#039;s ordination and not be theologically liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egalitarianism and women&#8217;s ordination is not necessarily theological liberalism. Perhaps is liberalism anything goes, but one can be egalitarian and support women&#8217;s ordination and not be theologically liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ferg&lt;/b&gt;:  &quot;&lt;i&gt;Catholicism has destroyed a lot of lives, as has the Church of Ireland BECAUSE of their religiousity.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not going to touch the assertion that the Roman Catholic Church has destroyed a lot of lives, whether it be in Ireland or elsewhere.

And I still don&#039;t understand what you mean by &quot;religiousity&quot;.

But I will respond that there are people who would argue that both the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland and the Anglican Province in Ireland called the Church of Ireland is being destroyed by &lt;i&gt;Liberalism&lt;/i&gt; and by extension, the flock therein is being destroyed by the clergy embracing theological liberalism.

(1)  &lt;b&gt;Irish Catholic&lt;/b&gt;:  &quot;This left the Church Militant in Ireland with neither the weapons, armor or morale to withstand the extended Tet Offensive launched by the secular left whose march through the institutions - media, political parties, courts, local and governmental bureaucracies, schools and universities - is now complete. Outflanked, fifth-columned, sniped at and then defeated in one pitched battle after the other, the Church, tactically inept and strategically bereft, retreated in confused rout to sanctuary, presbytery and episcopal palace. Now and then an eminent emissary emerges with yet another white flag masquerading as a brave banner of defiance to signal that the capitulation is complete.&quot;

From:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://chrismatthewsotherleg.blogspot.com/2008/02/irish-catholic-church-disappears-down.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Irish Catholic Church Disappears Down Political Correctness Boghole &lt;/a&gt;

(2) Church of Ireland (Anglican): &quot;Homosexuality is &quot;natural&quot; for homosexuals and must be accepted by the Church, the Anglican Primate of Ireland said this week.&quot;

From:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08070812.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Archbishop Alan Harper of the Armagh Anglican diocese &lt;/a&gt;

P.S.  I also read somewhere that the growth in the Church of Ireland is primarily the result of Anglican immigrants moving into Northern Ireland.

I&#039;m sorry Ferg, you&#039;re not going to like this, but I will say it again:  Secular and theological liberalism, such as egalitarianism and women&#039;s ordination is spiritually and ecclesiastically destructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ferg</b>:  &#8220;<i>Catholicism has destroyed a lot of lives, as has the Church of Ireland BECAUSE of their religiousity.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to touch the assertion that the Roman Catholic Church has destroyed a lot of lives, whether it be in Ireland or elsewhere.</p>
<p>And I still don&#8217;t understand what you mean by &#8220;religiousity&#8221;.</p>
<p>But I will respond that there are people who would argue that both the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland and the Anglican Province in Ireland called the Church of Ireland is being destroyed by <i>Liberalism</i> and by extension, the flock therein is being destroyed by the clergy embracing theological liberalism.</p>
<p>(1)  <b>Irish Catholic</b>:  &#8220;This left the Church Militant in Ireland with neither the weapons, armor or morale to withstand the extended Tet Offensive launched by the secular left whose march through the institutions &#8211; media, political parties, courts, local and governmental bureaucracies, schools and universities &#8211; is now complete. Outflanked, fifth-columned, sniped at and then defeated in one pitched battle after the other, the Church, tactically inept and strategically bereft, retreated in confused rout to sanctuary, presbytery and episcopal palace. Now and then an eminent emissary emerges with yet another white flag masquerading as a brave banner of defiance to signal that the capitulation is complete.&#8221;</p>
<p>From:  <a href="http://chrismatthewsotherleg.blogspot.com/2008/02/irish-catholic-church-disappears-down.html" rel="nofollow"> Irish Catholic Church Disappears Down Political Correctness Boghole </a></p>
<p>(2) Church of Ireland (Anglican): &#8220;Homosexuality is &#8220;natural&#8221; for homosexuals and must be accepted by the Church, the Anglican Primate of Ireland said this week.&#8221;</p>
<p>From:  <a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08070812.html" rel="nofollow"> Archbishop Alan Harper of the Armagh Anglican diocese </a></p>
<p>P.S.  I also read somewhere that the growth in the Church of Ireland is primarily the result of Anglican immigrants moving into Northern Ireland.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry Ferg, you&#8217;re not going to like this, but I will say it again:  Secular and theological liberalism, such as egalitarianism and women&#8217;s ordination is spiritually and ecclesiastically destructive.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

You have made constructive arguments on previous threads, but your behavior over the past couple of threads has been exactly what I have accused you of.  If you get ticked at someone on a thread, then just leave it there.  Don&#039;t follow them around trying to embarrass them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>You have made constructive arguments on previous threads, but your behavior over the past couple of threads has been exactly what I have accused you of.  If you get ticked at someone on a thread, then just leave it there.  Don&#8217;t follow them around trying to embarrass them.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Stephen Newell,

I just took a quick peek at your blog.  You&#039;re a good servant of Christ.  Pyromaniac, Puritan Reading Project, excellent blog roll, etc... all tell me that you&#039;re solid theologically.

God bless you and yours.

Pax in Christ alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stephen Newell,</p>
<p>I just took a quick peek at your blog.  You&#8217;re a good servant of Christ.  Pyromaniac, Puritan Reading Project, excellent blog roll, etc&#8230; all tell me that you&#8217;re solid theologically.</p>
<p>God bless you and yours.</p>
<p>Pax in Christ alone.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Stephen, just go back over the past week or so and look at all the conversations and tell me if I am the only one to be blamed...mmmkay...thanks.

I never said I didn&#039;t do anything wrong, as I believe I took Paul&#039;s rebuke to heart. So maybe it&#039;s best that you don&#039;t comment on blogs, because you&#039;re not informed of the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Stephen, just go back over the past week or so and look at all the conversations and tell me if I am the only one to be blamed&#8230;mmmkay&#8230;thanks.</p>
<p>I never said I didn&#8217;t do anything wrong, as I believe I took Paul&#8217;s rebuke to heart. So maybe it&#8217;s best that you don&#8217;t comment on blogs, because you&#8217;re not informed of the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical Pharisaical attitude...everybody else is bad and wrong and I am right so I won&#039;t associate with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical Pharisaical attitude&#8230;everybody else is bad and wrong and I am right so I won&#8217;t associate with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Newell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This (see above two comments) is why I rarely comment on blogs.  Certain individuals just can&#039;t do anything other than blame everyone else instead of taking responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This (see above two comments) is why I rarely comment on blogs.  Certain individuals just can&#8217;t do anything other than blame everyone else instead of taking responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, I contributed much to the discussion on Dever vs. Hauerwas, so go look at it if you think all I do is follow TUAD and Darius around. So Mark, Darius, and Paul are all wrong that I have not made any constructive comments or discussed the topic at hand. If you&#039;re going to try and call me out like I&#039;m bad and you&#039;re good, then try not to misrepresent me.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, I contributed much to the discussion on Dever vs. Hauerwas, so go look at it if you think all I do is follow TUAD and Darius around. So Mark, Darius, and Paul are all wrong that I have not made any constructive comments or discussed the topic at hand. If you&#8217;re going to try and call me out like I&#8217;m bad and you&#8217;re good, then try not to misrepresent me.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Thanks for the words. I don&#039;t know why I&#039;m the only one you address, as Darius, TUAD, and Mark are all acting the same way, but I understand what you&#039;re talking about. If I were to post some left-wing liberal comment and act as though those who disagree with it are not Christians and it is as plain as day, I would be getting the same remarks from these guys that I&#039;m giving them. I agree that I should keep my mouth shut at times, but when people like Darius and TUAD post with such venom and harsh words, it is very difficult (as you know, since you&#039;re not always the most civil on here). I have noticed Darius getting much better at staying civil over the past month or two (I basically just got into it with him because he deemed it necessary to defend TUAD), but TUAD is just about beyond hope, and it is tough for me to just let what he says go without any confrontation. I hope you can understand, and I&#039;ll try my best from here on out. I have not posted here very much, but I have been reading for a while, and the attitudes that some continually have and the words they speak (like TUAD&#039;s continual postings on egalitarianism being Satan&#039;s ploy and a cancer), frankly just irritate me after a while. I don&#039;t see hardly any of the other commenters confront him, so I figured I would. I speak the way I do to try and make him see how foolish he sounds and how it makes us feel, but I suppose that is possibly the wrong method.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Thanks for the words. I don&#8217;t know why I&#8217;m the only one you address, as Darius, TUAD, and Mark are all acting the same way, but I understand what you&#8217;re talking about. If I were to post some left-wing liberal comment and act as though those who disagree with it are not Christians and it is as plain as day, I would be getting the same remarks from these guys that I&#8217;m giving them. I agree that I should keep my mouth shut at times, but when people like Darius and TUAD post with such venom and harsh words, it is very difficult (as you know, since you&#8217;re not always the most civil on here). I have noticed Darius getting much better at staying civil over the past month or two (I basically just got into it with him because he deemed it necessary to defend TUAD), but TUAD is just about beyond hope, and it is tough for me to just let what he says go without any confrontation. I hope you can understand, and I&#8217;ll try my best from here on out. I have not posted here very much, but I have been reading for a while, and the attitudes that some continually have and the words they speak (like TUAD&#8217;s continual postings on egalitarianism being Satan&#8217;s ploy and a cancer), frankly just irritate me after a while. I don&#8217;t see hardly any of the other commenters confront him, so I figured I would. I speak the way I do to try and make him see how foolish he sounds and how it makes us feel, but I suppose that is possibly the wrong method.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul.</p>
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