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	<title>Comments on: What is Pat Robertson talking about?</title>
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		<title>By: russware</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/what-is-pat-robertson-talking-about/#comment-55037</link>
		<dc:creator>russware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article here:
http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/fundamentalists-and-the-atheists-who-love-them/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article here:<br />
<a href="http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/fundamentalists-and-the-atheists-who-love-them/" rel="nofollow">http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/fundamentalists-and-the-atheists-who-love-them/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Derek Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/what-is-pat-robertson-talking-about/#comment-54933</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting follow up report from Haiti, plus comments from Pat Robertson via CBN:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/January/Turmoil-in-Haiti-Turns-Woman-from-Voodoo/

Also, a pastor calls his church to repent; voodoo is condemned:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/17/lawrence.church.destroyed.cnn

We don&#039;t know if this was judgment. Pat Robertson doesn&#039;t know it either, though many Haitians believe it was. My point is that if this event indeed reminds us that God will judge sin, these videos serve as a powerful testimony that God is glorified and that sometimes we all need a wake-up call.

Now it shouldn&#039;t surprise us that the world would be outraged and infuriated at the idea that God could be glorified in judgment or in natural disasters. But we of all people - those who believe 2 Tim. 3:16 - should be able to grasp and embrace the concept of God&#039;s &quot;severe mercy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting follow up report from Haiti, plus comments from Pat Robertson via CBN:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/January/Turmoil-in-Haiti-Turns-Woman-from-Voodoo/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/January/Turmoil-in-Haiti-Turns-Woman-from-Voodoo/</a></p>
<p>Also, a pastor calls his church to repent; voodoo is condemned:<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/17/lawrence.church.destroyed.cnn" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/17/lawrence.church.destroyed.cnn</a></p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know if this was judgment. Pat Robertson doesn&#8217;t know it either, though many Haitians believe it was. My point is that if this event indeed reminds us that God will judge sin, these videos serve as a powerful testimony that God is glorified and that sometimes we all need a wake-up call.</p>
<p>Now it shouldn&#8217;t surprise us that the world would be outraged and infuriated at the idea that God could be glorified in judgment or in natural disasters. But we of all people &#8211; those who believe 2 Tim. 3:16 &#8211; should be able to grasp and embrace the concept of God&#8217;s &#8220;severe mercy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vinzant</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/what-is-pat-robertson-talking-about/#comment-54916</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vinzant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

I wasn&#039;t suggesting that the list contained those with the best argumentation against which your Christian faith could be measured.

I was instead providing a list of well-known nonbelievers who put lie to the notion that one must have Christianity to live a fulfilled and joyful life. Some of the intellectual &quot;lightweights&quot; are individuals who have demonstrated that one can have a meaningful life apart from religion even in very difficult circumstances (Fox, Sweeney, Reeves, Pausch, Armstrong).

You ask: &quot;If your life is as comfortable as you claim, then why spend it debating Christians on a Christian blog?&quot;

First, I didn&#039;t say my life is comfortable - I said it is happier and more meaningful now than it was as a believer. Many Christians spend time debating atheists; is that proof their lives are meaningless? Of course not. I suspect they do it for the same I&#039;m here. One, I enjoy debating people. I imagine you do too. Second, I believe that I can help others escape religion and start making the world a better place. That makes me happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t suggesting that the list contained those with the best argumentation against which your Christian faith could be measured.</p>
<p>I was instead providing a list of well-known nonbelievers who put lie to the notion that one must have Christianity to live a fulfilled and joyful life. Some of the intellectual &#8220;lightweights&#8221; are individuals who have demonstrated that one can have a meaningful life apart from religion even in very difficult circumstances (Fox, Sweeney, Reeves, Pausch, Armstrong).</p>
<p>You ask: &#8220;If your life is as comfortable as you claim, then why spend it debating Christians on a Christian blog?&#8221;</p>
<p>First, I didn&#8217;t say my life is comfortable &#8211; I said it is happier and more meaningful now than it was as a believer. Many Christians spend time debating atheists; is that proof their lives are meaningless? Of course not. I suspect they do it for the same I&#8217;m here. One, I enjoy debating people. I imagine you do too. Second, I believe that I can help others escape religion and start making the world a better place. That makes me happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/what-is-pat-robertson-talking-about/#comment-54915</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no, happiness is not an indicator of the &quot;factuality&quot; of faith. Neither is joy or, to a certain degree, hope. I simply said that I can&#039;t imagine life without my faith. Obviously you can, and I respect your choice. Though, obviously, I disagree :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, happiness is not an indicator of the &#8220;factuality&#8221; of faith. Neither is joy or, to a certain degree, hope. I simply said that I can&#8217;t imagine life without my faith. Obviously you can, and I respect your choice. Though, obviously, I disagree <img src='http://www.dennyburk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Yes, it is off topic. But you took it in that direction by insinuating that Christianity is a silly superstition. 

If your life is as comfortable as you claim, then why spend it debating Christians on a Christian blog? 

For the record, I&#039;m a religious studies student who has studied Christian, Jewish, and Greco-Roman literature under  both atheist and agnostic professors. I&#039;m quite sure that my Christian faith is better measured against their argumentation than by the autobiographical meanderings of the folks you just mentioned. Sweeney? Fox? Armstrong? Buffet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Yes, it is off topic. But you took it in that direction by insinuating that Christianity is a silly superstition. </p>
<p>If your life is as comfortable as you claim, then why spend it debating Christians on a Christian blog? </p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;m a religious studies student who has studied Christian, Jewish, and Greco-Roman literature under  both atheist and agnostic professors. I&#8217;m quite sure that my Christian faith is better measured against their argumentation than by the autobiographical meanderings of the folks you just mentioned. Sweeney? Fox? Armstrong? Buffet?</p>
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		<title>By: David Vinzant</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vinzant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An addendum. I am convinced that my life is much more meaningful and happier as a nonbeliever than the 35 years as a true believer. It is like living in color as opposed to black and white (lost and saved). But even if life were somehow happier for believers, George Bernard Shaw&#039;s quote would apply: &quot;The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.&quot; I would far rather know an uncomfortable truth than believe a comfortable lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An addendum. I am convinced that my life is much more meaningful and happier as a nonbeliever than the 35 years as a true believer. It is like living in color as opposed to black and white (lost and saved). But even if life were somehow happier for believers, George Bernard Shaw&#8217;s quote would apply: &#8220;The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.&#8221; I would far rather know an uncomfortable truth than believe a comfortable lie.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vinzant</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vinzant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Scott, there can be meaning in life apart from Christianity or any other religion. It&#039;s a huge and important question, but a bit off subject for this thread. As a start, you might want to read books on having a meaningful life by such heretics as Paul Kurtz, Michael Shermer, Bertrand Russell, Lance Armstrong, Isaac Asimov, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Christopher Reeve, Julia Sweeney, Michael J. Fox, Stephen Hawking, Mark Twain, the Dalai Lama, or Randy Pausch (&quot;The Last Lecture&quot;). If you&#039;d rather, you can watch the Last Lecture here:
http://www.cmu.edu/uls/journeys/randy-pausch/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Scott, there can be meaning in life apart from Christianity or any other religion. It&#8217;s a huge and important question, but a bit off subject for this thread. As a start, you might want to read books on having a meaningful life by such heretics as Paul Kurtz, Michael Shermer, Bertrand Russell, Lance Armstrong, Isaac Asimov, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Christopher Reeve, Julia Sweeney, Michael J. Fox, Stephen Hawking, Mark Twain, the Dalai Lama, or Randy Pausch (&#8220;The Last Lecture&#8221;). If you&#8217;d rather, you can watch the Last Lecture here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cmu.edu/uls/journeys/randy-pausch/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmu.edu/uls/journeys/randy-pausch/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Derek Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quote from 1 Cor 1:18 because I can&#039;t say it better than Paul did, 2,000 years ago: 

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:

   &quot;I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;Where is the wise man? 
Where is the scholar? 
Where is the philosopher of this age?&lt;/b&gt; 

Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews (i.e. religious people) demand miraculous signs and Greeks (i.e. materialist) look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man&#039;s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man&#039;s strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quote from 1 Cor 1:18 because I can&#8217;t say it better than Paul did, 2,000 years ago: </p>
<p>For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:</p>
<p>   &#8220;I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>Where is the wise man?<br />
Where is the scholar?<br />
Where is the philosopher of this age?</b> </p>
<p>Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews (i.e. religious people) demand miraculous signs and Greeks (i.e. materialist) look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man&#8217;s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man&#8217;s strength.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of life is worth living apart from one rooted in the Christian expectation of eternal life? 

Seriously. You can accuse Darius of wasting his mind, but how do you get by day to day believing there is nothing more after this life? What hope do you have? Is anything of value? Live, drink, and be merry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of life is worth living apart from one rooted in the Christian expectation of eternal life? </p>
<p>Seriously. You can accuse Darius of wasting his mind, but how do you get by day to day believing there is nothing more after this life? What hope do you have? Is anything of value? Live, drink, and be merry?</p>
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		<title>By: Darius T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a waste to use it otherwise.  Christianity is the only thing that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a waste to use it otherwise.  Christianity is the only thing that makes sense.</p>
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