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		<title>By: Darlene N Bocek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene N Bocek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 11:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BaÅŸhekim YardÄ±mcÄ±sÄ± ve hastane sÃ¶zcÃ¼sÃ¼ DoÃ§. Dr. Murat UÄŸraÅŸ

&quot;SayamadÄ±ÄŸÄ±mÄ±z kadar Ã§ok bÄ±Ã§ak darbesi vardÄ±. Ä°ÅŸkence amaÃ§lÄ± olduÄŸu Ã§ok aÃ§Ä±ktÄ±. KalÃ§asÄ±, testisleri, anÃ¼sÃ¼, beli ve sÄ±rtÄ± onlarca bÄ±Ã§ak darbesi ile doÄŸranmÄ±ÅŸ. ParmaklarÄ± uzunlamasÄ±na ve kemiÄŸe kadar defalarca kesilmiÅŸti. BoÄŸazÄ±nda da boydan boya Ã§ok uzun ve aÃ§Ä±k bir yara var. Yemek borusu ve soluk borusu bu darbelerle kesilmiÅŸti. Saat 14.25â€™te ameliyata alÄ±ndÄ±. Hastanedeki 4 birimin ekipleri ameliyata girdi. 51 Ã¼nite kan verildi. Hastanenin kan stoklarÄ± tÃ¼kendiÄŸi iÃ§in kan KÄ±zÄ±layâ€™dan tamamlandÄ±. Ancak UÄŸur saat 17.30â€™da hayatÄ±nÄ± kaybetti.&quot;

 

Dr. Murat UÄŸraÅŸ, a spokesman for the Turgut Ã–zal Medical center

â€œHe had innumerable scores of knife stab wounds. It is obvious that these wounds had been inflicted to torture him. His fingers were repeatedly sliced to the bone lengthwise. His buttocks, his tecticles, his rectum, his lower and middle back had dozens of cuts. There was a very long and open cut on his neck from ear to ear. His esophagus and trechea were cut with the knife-stab wounds. He was taken into surgery at 14:25. Teams from 4 units of the hospital participated in the surgery. 51 units of blood were given. After the hospitals blood stock were depleted, the blood was supplied from Kizilay (Red Crescent). Nevertheless, Ugur lost his life at 17:30.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BaÅŸhekim YardÄ±mcÄ±sÄ± ve hastane sÃ¶zcÃ¼sÃ¼ DoÃ§. Dr. Murat UÄŸraÅŸ</p>
<p>&#8220;SayamadÄ±ÄŸÄ±mÄ±z kadar Ã§ok bÄ±Ã§ak darbesi vardÄ±. Ä°ÅŸkence amaÃ§lÄ± olduÄŸu Ã§ok aÃ§Ä±ktÄ±. KalÃ§asÄ±, testisleri, anÃ¼sÃ¼, beli ve sÄ±rtÄ± onlarca bÄ±Ã§ak darbesi ile doÄŸranmÄ±ÅŸ. ParmaklarÄ± uzunlamasÄ±na ve kemiÄŸe kadar defalarca kesilmiÅŸti. BoÄŸazÄ±nda da boydan boya Ã§ok uzun ve aÃ§Ä±k bir yara var. Yemek borusu ve soluk borusu bu darbelerle kesilmiÅŸti. Saat 14.25â€™te ameliyata alÄ±ndÄ±. Hastanedeki 4 birimin ekipleri ameliyata girdi. 51 Ã¼nite kan verildi. Hastanenin kan stoklarÄ± tÃ¼kendiÄŸi iÃ§in kan KÄ±zÄ±layâ€™dan tamamlandÄ±. Ancak UÄŸur saat 17.30â€™da hayatÄ±nÄ± kaybetti.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr. Murat UÄŸraÅŸ, a spokesman for the Turgut Ã–zal Medical center</p>
<p>â€œHe had innumerable scores of knife stab wounds. It is obvious that these wounds had been inflicted to torture him. His fingers were repeatedly sliced to the bone lengthwise. His buttocks, his tecticles, his rectum, his lower and middle back had dozens of cuts. There was a very long and open cut on his neck from ear to ear. His esophagus and trechea were cut with the knife-stab wounds. He was taken into surgery at 14:25. Teams from 4 units of the hospital participated in the surgery. 51 units of blood were given. After the hospitals blood stock were depleted, the blood was supplied from Kizilay (Red Crescent). Nevertheless, Ugur lost his life at 17:30.â€</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene N Bocek</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/voice-of-the-martyrs-revises-letter/#comment-7451</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene N Bocek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 11:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter currently on the VOM site is our most updated &#039;Letter to the Global Church from the Church of Smyrna.&#039;  The graphic description of the torture given by Dr. Murat Ugras in a press conference is being challenged pending release of the &#039;official&#039; autopsy report.  Until more is known, even the above reports which refer to Dr. Ugras&#039;s interview are questionable.  

We based the description in the initial prayer letter on those news reports and others like them which are only available in Turkish, but as you suggested substantiating them is another issue.

Unfortunately, no believer saw the whole body of either Necati or Ugur.  Tilmann&#039;s friends saw his whole body and from what they saw it appeared that there were only &#039;about 20&#039; visible wounds.   Some suggest that there was a conspiracy to exaggerate the extent of the wounds in order to frighten the Christians in Turkey.  Others hold that a doctor of such repute as Dr. Murat Ugras would not go &#039;on the line&#039; by lying about such a case of national and international significance.  Out of courtesy to the debate we requested that pending release of the autopsy reports that those graphic details be removed.  

That said, I think that generally people do not really have a picture of what &#039;torture&#039; really means.  The extent of the torture on the initial letter was in several areas probably exaggerated by the media we based our report on.  However, we believe that in His Sovereignty, God used even that to wake His Worldwide Church from slumber.

I am attaching on the next post the text of the interview with Dr. Murat Ugras.

Sincerely,
Darlene N. Bocek
The Protestant Church of Smyrna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter currently on the VOM site is our most updated &#8216;Letter to the Global Church from the Church of Smyrna.&#8217;  The graphic description of the torture given by Dr. Murat Ugras in a press conference is being challenged pending release of the &#8216;official&#8217; autopsy report.  Until more is known, even the above reports which refer to Dr. Ugras&#8217;s interview are questionable.  </p>
<p>We based the description in the initial prayer letter on those news reports and others like them which are only available in Turkish, but as you suggested substantiating them is another issue.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, no believer saw the whole body of either Necati or Ugur.  Tilmann&#8217;s friends saw his whole body and from what they saw it appeared that there were only &#8216;about 20&#8242; visible wounds.   Some suggest that there was a conspiracy to exaggerate the extent of the wounds in order to frighten the Christians in Turkey.  Others hold that a doctor of such repute as Dr. Murat Ugras would not go &#8216;on the line&#8217; by lying about such a case of national and international significance.  Out of courtesy to the debate we requested that pending release of the autopsy reports that those graphic details be removed.  </p>
<p>That said, I think that generally people do not really have a picture of what &#8216;torture&#8217; really means.  The extent of the torture on the initial letter was in several areas probably exaggerated by the media we based our report on.  However, we believe that in His Sovereignty, God used even that to wake His Worldwide Church from slumber.</p>
<p>I am attaching on the next post the text of the interview with Dr. Murat Ugras.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Darlene N. Bocek<br />
The Protestant Church of Smyrna</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Nettleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Nettleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 13:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denny:

Some of the &quot;confirmation&quot; for the brutal details of the attack came from Turkish media reports, including the Turkish Daily News, which quoted a doctor who had worked on the case.

We have recieved updated reports from sources in Turkey that questioned some of the early reports, and that&#039;s why we made the change to our web site posting about the case.

Please continue to pray for Christians in Turkey, and that this event can be the spark that lights a great revival fire in that country.

Blessings,

Todd Nettleton
The Voice of the Martyrs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denny:</p>
<p>Some of the &#8220;confirmation&#8221; for the brutal details of the attack came from Turkish media reports, including the Turkish Daily News, which quoted a doctor who had worked on the case.</p>
<p>We have recieved updated reports from sources in Turkey that questioned some of the early reports, and that&#8217;s why we made the change to our web site posting about the case.</p>
<p>Please continue to pray for Christians in Turkey, and that this event can be the spark that lights a great revival fire in that country.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Todd Nettleton<br />
The Voice of the Martyrs</p>
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