Comments on: The Gnosticizing Joel Osteen http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/ A commentary on theology, politics, and culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:44:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: alessandro http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-59458 alessandro Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:59:02 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-59458 I have been to that church and i have been very astonished by his message, completly opposite to the message i had heard all my life. His message is GNOSTIC, not christian. I have been to that church and i have been very astonished by his message, completly opposite to the message i had heard all my life. His message is GNOSTIC, not christian.

]]> By: Matthew McMains http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-57963 Matthew McMains Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:07:33 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-57963 Osteens "gospel" is a counterfeit...plain and simple. Osteens “gospel” is a counterfeit…plain and simple.

]]> By: Pha http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-24701 Pha Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:45:37 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-24701 I just happened to come across this website and began reading the varying commentary. I think it is a simple as this, the same thing people are accusing Joel Osteen of they seem to be guilty of themselves. It is all a matter of interpretation, and many of the people seem to be interpreting from their own viesw and opinions and from those they have learned from various literature they have read. It is odd to me that we have this new term "prosperity teachings" because a preacher teaches his congregation that they are no longer condemned and can have and do better then the present state they are in, but for those who preach the version where we are all condemned to hell is just a preacher. I think the same way Joel Osteen can over simplify, many here just complicated the word. To call someone wrong, is wrong in itself, how about the word is interpreted to Joel Osteen different than it is to each of you. We are all unique in our spirituality and all in different places and that does not make someone wrong. Since people want to judge according to the Bible, will God not take care of him if he is wrong. As a spiritually sound person, should we not allow him to be where he is in his spiritual journey, I guess this very discussion is biblical, did people not denounce Jesus and the Word He was spreading. I just happened to come across this website and began reading the varying commentary. I think it is a simple as this, the same thing people are accusing Joel Osteen of they seem to be guilty of themselves. It is all a matter of interpretation, and many of the people seem to be interpreting from their own viesw and opinions and from those they have learned from various literature they have read.

It is odd to me that we have this new term “prosperity teachings” because a preacher teaches his congregation that they are no longer condemned and can have and do better then the present state they are in, but for those who preach the version where we are all condemned to hell is just a preacher. I think the same way Joel Osteen can over simplify, many here just complicated the word.

To call someone wrong, is wrong in itself, how about the word is interpreted to Joel Osteen different than it is to each of you. We are all unique in our spirituality and all in different places and that does not make someone wrong. Since people want to judge according to the Bible, will God not take care of him if he is wrong. As a spiritually sound person, should we not allow him to be where he is in his spiritual journey, I guess this very discussion is biblical, did people not denounce Jesus and the Word He was spreading.

]]> By: Jon http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20481 Jon Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:30:11 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20481 Sorry about the duplicate. Computer was acting funny. Sorry about the duplicate. Computer was acting funny.

]]> By: Jon http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20480 Jon Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:29:06 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20480 MLM, It doesn't really sound like preaching to the choir when there are individuals here that are supporting the fella. But you make a good point. I think I will try to get in touch with Osteen. After all, it is a Christian's obligation to help the brother in need. I recommend the same for all who read this. Let's flood his e-mail. Thanks, Jon MLM,

It doesn’t really sound like preaching to the choir when there are individuals here that are supporting the fella. But you make a good point. I think I will try to get in touch with Osteen. After all, it is a Christian’s obligation to help the brother in need. I recommend the same for all who read this. Let’s flood his e-mail.

Thanks,
Jon

]]> By: Jon http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20479 Jon Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:24:41 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20479 MLM, It doesn't really sound like preaching to the choir when there are individuals here that are supporting the fella. But you make a good point. I think I will try to get in touch with Osteen. After all, it is a Christian's obligation to help the brother in need. I recommend the same for all who read this. Thanks, Jon MLM,

It doesn’t really sound like preaching to the choir when there are individuals here that are supporting the fella. But you make a good point. I think I will try to get in touch with Osteen. After all, it is a Christian’s obligation to help the brother in need. I recommend the same for all who read this.

Thanks,
Jon

]]> By: Wonders for Oyarsa http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20260 Wonders for Oyarsa Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:29:11 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20260 Um, because I don't know him, MLM. He's a very busy man, and doubtless will not have time for an extended email discussion with someone he's never heard of. I discuss it on Burk's blog because, well, I read Burk's blog and comment when I feel like I have something to say on the matter. Plus I get more hits to my own site that way. ;-) Um, because I don’t know him, MLM. He’s a very busy man, and doubtless will not have time for an extended email discussion with someone he’s never heard of.

I discuss it on Burk’s blog because, well, I read Burk’s blog and comment when I feel like I have something to say on the matter. Plus I get more hits to my own site that way. ;-)

]]> By: mlm http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20239 mlm Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:24:36 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20239 Wonders, My point is, what good is your denouncing really doing? If all you do is denounce on this blog, you're really just preaching to the choir. If we really care that his message is wrong and hurting others, why don't we talk to HIM about it? After all, that's the only way to have any chance of changing the message. He's not going to read Burk's blog. Wonders,

My point is, what good is your denouncing really doing? If all you do is denounce on this blog, you’re really just preaching to the choir.

If we really care that his message is wrong and hurting others, why don’t we talk to HIM about it? After all, that’s the only way to have any chance of changing the message. He’s not going to read Burk’s blog.

]]> By: Wonders for Oyarsa http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20237 Wonders for Oyarsa Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:14:46 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20237 The thing is though, MLM - this man is not just preaching to his congregation. He is a celebrity, a public figure, spreading his ideas through books selling millions of copies. As such, the ideas, if they are bad, have every right to be denounced and denounced loudly. As he's put his name attached to them in big letters, there's nothing wrong with saying "Osteen is very very wrong about x". The thing is though, MLM – this man is not just preaching to his congregation. He is a celebrity, a public figure, spreading his ideas through books selling millions of copies. As such, the ideas, if they are bad, have every right to be denounced and denounced loudly. As he’s put his name attached to them in big letters, there’s nothing wrong with saying “Osteen is very very wrong about x”.

]]> By: mlm http://www.dennyburk.com/the-gnosticizing-joel-osteen/#comment-20234 mlm Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:54:42 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=911#comment-20234 Wonders, I guess my point is this: if we are so concerned about Osteen's message and about his flock, we should be writing to Osteen, calling his church, asking for a meeting. We shouldn't be blasting him on a blog he'll never read. Throughout these comments, it seems the two points you raise are noticeably absent: 1) a deep and genuine concern for his flock, and 2) the ability to dissect a message without attacking the man. Wonders,

I guess my point is this: if we are so concerned about Osteen’s message and about his flock, we should be writing to Osteen, calling his church, asking for a meeting. We shouldn’t be blasting him on a blog he’ll never read. Throughout these comments, it seems the two points you raise are noticeably absent: 1) a deep and genuine concern for his flock, and 2) the ability to dissect a message without attacking the man.

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