Comments on: Seyoon Kim on Anti-Imperial Interpretation http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/ A commentary on theology, politics, and culture Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:07:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Denny Burk http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-68834 Denny Burk Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:25:45 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-68834 Sure. Just email it to me. Sure. Just email it to me.

]]> By: Chris Northcott http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-68833 Chris Northcott Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:56:30 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-68833 Hello Denny, I am writing a masters thesis working on a 'counter-imperial' interpretation of Colossians 1:15-20. I am only in beginning stages but I have written a section on my methodology for the 'counter-imperial' aspect of my work. I recognise that a good deal of the 'counter-imperial' interpretive work is over-the-top in its conclusions, but I am still convinced that something can be said for it. I have taken note of Kim's arguments where they are relevant to my thesis. Would you care to read this methodology? It is about 3800 words. I would appreciate feedback and engagement - thesis study can be quite isolated! Hello Denny,

I am writing a masters thesis working on a ‘counter-imperial’ interpretation of Colossians 1:15-20. I am only in beginning stages but I have written a section on my methodology for the ‘counter-imperial’ aspect of my work.
I recognise that a good deal of the ‘counter-imperial’ interpretive work is over-the-top in its conclusions, but I am still convinced that something can be said for it. I have taken note of Kim’s arguments where they are relevant to my thesis.
Would you care to read this methodology? It is about 3800 words. I would appreciate feedback and engagement – thesis study can be quite isolated!

]]> By: John http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-50518 John Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:28:19 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-50518 Dear Denny, I am waiting for your review of seyoon's book. Often I check back here, but I don't see it yet. I want to register my brief remark about his book. I am actually disgusted by his approach to Paul and his dull sense of real lives at Paul's time. While his thesis is clear, it is not persuasive at all because of his simplistic "either/or" thinking between this world and God's world (or you might say between theology and politics). Good scholarship does not begin with overconfidence but through a humbling spirit throush which one can see the real issues of human lives, ancient or modern. I think, the biggest mistake he makes is that he denies other ways of reading of the texts. I am reminded of this passage of Mark: "Do you still not understand or perceive? Do you have eyes and fail to see? Do you have ears and fail to hear?" Dear Denny,
I am waiting for your review of seyoon’s book. Often I check back here, but I don’t see it yet.
I want to register my brief remark about his book. I am actually disgusted by his approach to Paul and his dull sense of real lives at Paul’s time.
While his thesis is clear, it is not persuasive at all because of his simplistic “either/or” thinking between this world and God’s world (or you might say between theology and politics). Good scholarship does not begin with overconfidence but through a humbling spirit throush which one can see the real issues of human lives, ancient or modern. I think, the biggest mistake he makes is that he denies other ways of reading of the texts. I am reminded of this passage of Mark: “Do you still not understand or perceive? Do you have eyes and fail to see? Do you have ears and fail to hear?”

]]> By: Nanie http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-49054 Nanie Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:48:55 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-49054 Seyoon Kim's reading is unconvincing because I don't think we can separate theology from politics in ancient times. It is only a modern idea to think that we can do so. Seyoon Kim’s reading is unconvincing because I don’t think we can separate theology from politics in ancient times. It is only a modern idea to think that we can do so.

]]> By: Denny Burk http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-47754 Denny Burk Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:52:21 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-47754 Daniel, All good questions, and all of them are dealt with in the book. I'll post my review of the book on the blog after I finish writing it. Thanks, Denny Daniel,

All good questions, and all of them are dealt with in the book.

I’ll post my review of the book on the blog after I finish writing it.

Thanks,
Denny

]]> By: Daniel http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-47753 Daniel Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:32:53 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-47753 What about 1 and 2 Thessalonians? Acts 17 indicates that there was persecution in Thessalonica because Paul was preaching that there was another king. The language Paul uses to describe the 2nd coming was commonly used in reference to a royal visit by Caesar. What about 1 and 2 Thessalonians? Acts 17 indicates that there was persecution in Thessalonica because Paul was preaching that there was another king.

The language Paul uses to describe the 2nd coming was commonly used in reference to a royal visit by Caesar.

]]> By: Denny Burk http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-47751 Denny Burk Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:44:24 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-47751 Yunie (#10), Kim does deal with Neil Elliot's interpretation of Romans 13 (see pp. 36 and following). Kim shows Elliot's interpretation to be quite unconvincing. Thanks for the comment. Denny Yunie (#10),

Kim does deal with Neil Elliot’s interpretation of Romans 13 (see pp. 36 and following). Kim shows Elliot’s interpretation to be quite unconvincing.

Thanks for the comment.

Denny

]]> By: Denny Burk http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-47750 Denny Burk Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:10:28 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-47750 Josh, Other parts of the NT are definitely counter-imperial. The book of Revelation is the prime example. That's not really controversial. What is contested is the idea that Paul's letters are counter-imperial. That's what Kim (and I) would disagree with strongly. Thanks, Denny Josh,

Other parts of the NT are definitely counter-imperial. The book of Revelation is the prime example. That’s not really controversial.

What is contested is the idea that Paul’s letters are counter-imperial. That’s what Kim (and I) would disagree with strongly.

Thanks,
Denny

]]> By: Josh Mayfield http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-47749 Josh Mayfield Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:59:16 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-47749 Dr. Burk, Do you find it impossible for there to be other sources of counter-imperial sentiments in the NT? Do you see either John's Apocalypse or the Fourth Gospel showing a powerless Roman Empire in the face of the Lamb? It seems that there are anti or counter imperial qualities contained in Jesus' conversation with Pilate as well as allusions to the beast's empire in the Apocalypse. Furthermore, in the synoptics, no one would honestly dispute that the kingdom of God is the central theme in Jesus' ministry. Is there any counter-Rome, counter-imperial criticism Jesus levies when preaching the kingdom of God? I miss you brother. Josh Dr. Burk,

Do you find it impossible for there to be other sources of counter-imperial sentiments in the NT? Do you see either John’s Apocalypse or the Fourth Gospel showing a powerless Roman Empire in the face of the Lamb?

It seems that there are anti or counter imperial qualities contained in Jesus’ conversation with Pilate as well as allusions to the beast’s empire in the Apocalypse. Furthermore, in the synoptics, no one would honestly dispute that the kingdom of God is the central theme in Jesus’ ministry. Is there any counter-Rome, counter-imperial criticism Jesus levies when preaching the kingdom of God?

I miss you brother.

Josh

]]> By: yunie http://www.dennyburk.com/seyoon-kim-on-anti-imperial-interpretation/#comment-47748 yunie Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:33:24 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3173#comment-47748 hello, i just happened to find this site. i want to suggest to read Neil Elliott's recent book, The Arrogance of Nations. I wonder why Kim does not read the serious historical contexts of the Roman Empire. Neil deals with Rom 13 as well. Or I also want to recommend Yung Suk Kim's book, Christ's Body in Corinth. The question is, How can we not read Paul's body metaphor without the Empire's subjugation of bodies? hello, i just happened to find this site. i want to suggest to read Neil Elliott’s recent book, The Arrogance of Nations. I wonder why Kim does not read the serious historical contexts of the Roman Empire. Neil deals with Rom 13 as well. Or I also want to recommend Yung Suk Kim’s book, Christ’s Body in Corinth. The question is, How can we not read Paul’s body metaphor without the Empire’s subjugation of bodies?

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