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		<title>By: Carlito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting interview with Obama from 2004.  I&#039;m pretty sure this is legit, as it&#039;s an excerpt from a book called &quot;The God Factor&quot; by Cathleen Falsani.  http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm

He clearly professes faith in Christ.  However, it seems he has a postmodern universalist all-paths-lead-to-God worldview.

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â€œSo, I have a deep faith.  Iâ€™m rooted in the Christian tradition.  I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that thereâ€™s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.  I probably spent the first forty years of my life figuring out what I did believe, and itâ€™s not that I have it all completely worked out, but Iâ€™m spending a lot of time now trying to apply what I believe and trying to live up to those values.â€

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â€œI retain from my childhood and my experiences growing up a suspicion of dogma, and Iâ€™m not somebody who is always comfortable with language that implies Iâ€™ve got a monopoly on the truth, or that my faith is automatically transferable to others,â€ he continues.  â€œIâ€™m a big believer in tolerance.  I think that religion at its best comes with a big dose of doubt.  Iâ€™m suspicious, too, of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding.  I think that, particularly as somebody whoâ€™s now in the public realm and is a student of what brings people together and what drives them apart, thereâ€™s an enormous amount of damage done around the world in the name of religion and certainty.â€

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Obama doesnâ€™t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.  But heâ€™s not sure if heâ€™ll be going to heaven either.

â€œI find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.  I can&#039;t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.  That&#039;s just not part of my religious makeup,&quot; he says.  &quot;What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded.  I don&#039;t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.  But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, aligning myself to my faith and values is a good thing.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting interview with Obama from 2004.  I&#8217;m pretty sure this is legit, as it&#8217;s an excerpt from a book called &#8220;The God Factor&#8221; by Cathleen Falsani.  <a href="http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm</a></p>
<p>He clearly professes faith in Christ.  However, it seems he has a postmodern universalist all-paths-lead-to-God worldview.</p>
<p>Sample excerpts:</p>
<p>â€œSo, I have a deep faith.  Iâ€™m rooted in the Christian tradition.  I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that thereâ€™s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.  I probably spent the first forty years of my life figuring out what I did believe, and itâ€™s not that I have it all completely worked out, but Iâ€™m spending a lot of time now trying to apply what I believe and trying to live up to those values.â€</p>
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<p>â€œI retain from my childhood and my experiences growing up a suspicion of dogma, and Iâ€™m not somebody who is always comfortable with language that implies Iâ€™ve got a monopoly on the truth, or that my faith is automatically transferable to others,â€ he continues.  â€œIâ€™m a big believer in tolerance.  I think that religion at its best comes with a big dose of doubt.  Iâ€™m suspicious, too, of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding.  I think that, particularly as somebody whoâ€™s now in the public realm and is a student of what brings people together and what drives them apart, thereâ€™s an enormous amount of damage done around the world in the name of religion and certainty.â€</p>
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<p>Obama doesnâ€™t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.  But heâ€™s not sure if heâ€™ll be going to heaven either.</p>
<p>â€œI find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.  I can&#8217;t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.  That&#8217;s just not part of my religious makeup,&#8221; he says.  &#8220;What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded.  I don&#8217;t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.  But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, aligning myself to my faith and values is a good thing.â€</p>
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		<title>By: GUNNY HARTMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GUNNY HARTMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul ... a couple of quick hits.

I&#039;ve really been a bit out of the political loop for a while and didn&#039;t know the Muslim thing was such a hot issue.  I take it Obama is flatly denying that?

Second, I&#039;m not one of those who sees the Republican party as God&#039;s party or anything like that.  

For the Christian, I speaking to the Christian now, this is only for the Christian, trust should be put in God and not in a particular party.

That being said, unless Barry Goldwater is running, I have to pick the best among the options out there.  I think Fred has a legitimate chance and I prefer him over Hillary, Obama, Mitt, and Rudy (other perceived front-runners).

So, that&#039;s how I roll. 
http://gunny93.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-cologne-you-gonna-go-with-london.html

Paul, what will you do if Ron Paul doesn&#039;t make it past the semis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8230; a couple of quick hits.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve really been a bit out of the political loop for a while and didn&#8217;t know the Muslim thing was such a hot issue.  I take it Obama is flatly denying that?</p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;m not one of those who sees the Republican party as God&#8217;s party or anything like that.  </p>
<p>For the Christian, I speaking to the Christian now, this is only for the Christian, trust should be put in God and not in a particular party.</p>
<p>That being said, unless Barry Goldwater is running, I have to pick the best among the options out there.  I think Fred has a legitimate chance and I prefer him over Hillary, Obama, Mitt, and Rudy (other perceived front-runners).</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s how I roll.<br />
<a href="http://gunny93.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-cologne-you-gonna-go-with-london.html" rel="nofollow">http://gunny93.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-cologne-you-gonna-go-with-london.html</a></p>
<p>Paul, what will you do if Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t make it past the semis?</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunny, 

calling someone who is not a muslim a muslim in the political climate that we live in is most certainly name calling of the basest order, and both you and I know it.

And I&#039;m not calling you a brainless zombie, an idiot or a fascist.  If you&#039;re a flag waving member of the republican party who lets his politics get in the way of his faith, then sure, you&#039;re all three.  But if you&#039;re a pragmatic person who logically thinks out his political choices before voting, then you&#039;re not any of the above.  Of course, given what the neo-cons have done to the republican party over the last 13 years, I can&#039;t see how you can reconcile thinking and voting republican, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunny, </p>
<p>calling someone who is not a muslim a muslim in the political climate that we live in is most certainly name calling of the basest order, and both you and I know it.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not calling you a brainless zombie, an idiot or a fascist.  If you&#8217;re a flag waving member of the republican party who lets his politics get in the way of his faith, then sure, you&#8217;re all three.  But if you&#8217;re a pragmatic person who logically thinks out his political choices before voting, then you&#8217;re not any of the above.  Of course, given what the neo-cons have done to the republican party over the last 13 years, I can&#8217;t see how you can reconcile thinking and voting republican, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GUNNY HARTMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GUNNY HARTMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

I have some theological differences with Huck, though he be a SBCer.  Of course, Bill Clinton was also a SBC church member, he and I didn&#039;t quite see eye to eye either.

But, we don&#039;t really have a plethora of viable candidates this go around, which I&#039;m been lamenting since &#039;99 when I thought GWB was being used too soon.

Hey, nobody asked me, oddly enough. 

: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>I have some theological differences with Huck, though he be a SBCer.  Of course, Bill Clinton was also a SBC church member, he and I didn&#8217;t quite see eye to eye either.</p>
<p>But, we don&#8217;t really have a plethora of viable candidates this go around, which I&#8217;m been lamenting since &#8217;99 when I thought GWB was being used too soon.</p>
<p>Hey, nobody asked me, oddly enough. </p>
<p>: )</p>
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		<title>By: GUNNY HARTMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GUNNY HARTMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Paul, I didn&#039;t know that &quot;Muslim&quot; was namecalling.  If you&#039;re wanting to say he&#039;s not, that&#039;s one thing, but if you have a problem with Ann Coulter, don&#039;t take it out on me! 

;-)

I don&#039;t know man.  I know we don&#039;t know each other, so what do you care what I think, but I&#039;m really sensing a lot of pent us aggression and some projection.  

I&#039;m just saying to call me a &quot;brainless zombie&quot; and an &quot;idiot&quot; and a &quot;fascist&quot; seems a bit over the top.

I&#039;ll be the first to say this is not our daddies&#039; Republican party and that it is not without its faults.  There&#039;s plenty to criticize, it seems to me.

But that doesn&#039;t make loyalists fascists or the above.  They may only be pragmatists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Paul, I didn&#8217;t know that &#8220;Muslim&#8221; was namecalling.  If you&#8217;re wanting to say he&#8217;s not, that&#8217;s one thing, but if you have a problem with Ann Coulter, don&#8217;t take it out on me! </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.dennyburk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know man.  I know we don&#8217;t know each other, so what do you care what I think, but I&#8217;m really sensing a lot of pent us aggression and some projection.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying to call me a &#8220;brainless zombie&#8221; and an &#8220;idiot&#8221; and a &#8220;fascist&#8221; seems a bit over the top.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be the first to say this is not our daddies&#8217; Republican party and that it is not without its faults.  There&#8217;s plenty to criticize, it seems to me.</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t make loyalists fascists or the above.  They may only be pragmatists.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunny,Thanks for the info on Huck... Like I said I heard good things about him. Heard him on the radio.  Sounds OK to me.   I like Hunter the best but he won&#039;t get far.. AS for name calling the three from the left are libs that&#039;s it. We are now on a steady slide as a once great republic they will only grease the wheels.  Paul, Ron Paul is a joke... sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunny,Thanks for the info on Huck&#8230; Like I said I heard good things about him. Heard him on the radio.  Sounds OK to me.   I like Hunter the best but he won&#8217;t get far.. AS for name calling the three from the left are libs that&#8217;s it. We are now on a steady slide as a once great republic they will only grease the wheels.  Paul, Ron Paul is a joke&#8230; sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunny, I&#039;ll get right to the meat:

1) namecalling: who has started the &quot;Obama was a muslim&quot; thing?  Ann Coulter and her referring to Mr. Obama as B. Hussein Obama, therefore scaring all sorts of good ol&#039; boys.  Those who have followed in her footsteps deserve a good dosage of the same medicine she&#039;s serving.  The idiot thing is true too.  I&#039;ve never heard ONE political pundit of note (so no Hannity, Rush or any of the other Weekly World News styled yappers) make that claim.  But the same people calling Obama a muslim are calling Hillary a lesbian.  If Rudy was my leading candidate, I&#039;d be scared too, but this takes things too far.  And I&#039;m sorry, but the Republican party neo-cons of the moment ARE fascists.  It&#039;s not about small government, it&#039;s about bringing everyone into line.  It ain&#039;t Mussolini, but it&#039;s only a couple of steps away.  Ron Paul is the only true small government Republican running, and nobody mentions him.  Likely because there aren&#039;t too many small government republicans left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunny, I&#8217;ll get right to the meat:</p>
<p>1) namecalling: who has started the &#8220;Obama was a muslim&#8221; thing?  Ann Coulter and her referring to Mr. Obama as B. Hussein Obama, therefore scaring all sorts of good ol&#8217; boys.  Those who have followed in her footsteps deserve a good dosage of the same medicine she&#8217;s serving.  The idiot thing is true too.  I&#8217;ve never heard ONE political pundit of note (so no Hannity, Rush or any of the other Weekly World News styled yappers) make that claim.  But the same people calling Obama a muslim are calling Hillary a lesbian.  If Rudy was my leading candidate, I&#8217;d be scared too, but this takes things too far.  And I&#8217;m sorry, but the Republican party neo-cons of the moment ARE fascists.  It&#8217;s not about small government, it&#8217;s about bringing everyone into line.  It ain&#8217;t Mussolini, but it&#8217;s only a couple of steps away.  Ron Paul is the only true small government Republican running, and nobody mentions him.  Likely because there aren&#8217;t too many small government republicans left.</p>
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		<title>By: GUNNY HARTMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GUNNY HARTMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ... I&#039;m picking up some edge from Paul.

1. I actually don&#039;t call myself a Republican, but a Conservative with Libertarian leanings. I doubt Denny wants this to be the Obama Muslim forum, so I&#039;ll just say I think there&#039;s more to the Muslim thing.

2. I don&#039;t know who all is accusing Hillary of Lesbianism, but I can contradict your absolute statement because I first heard that in &#039;93 or &#039;94, from a friend who was/is a staunch Democrat.  She just happened to work as an intern in the governor&#039;s office in Little Rock while Bill was the governor.  I&#039;ve heard it since and apparently you have too, but that was my first exposure to it.

3. Well, if Thompson&#039;s rep comes to light, I&#039;ll deal with it then.  But, I&#039;ll share a lifelong Arkansas Republican friend&#039;s thoughts on Huckabee: 
&quot;Mike Huckabee is doo doo! He early released more violent criminals from prison onto the streets than maybe any other Gov. in Ark. He raised taxes like eating popcorn. And he was pretty much an overall bufoon!

Back in the day, as Lt. Gov running for US Senate, he was so far in the lead that no one could touch him. He gave up his senate bid to stay on as Gov. when the corrupt Ark. Gov got sent to prison. Why would anyone give up a sure Senate seat, arguably more influential than piddly Gov., to a liberal Dem? That was madness and a sure sign of his education space.

Mike Huckabee is a RINO folks.&quot;

That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying and I&#039;ve heard similar stuff from other Arkansas folks.

4. Well, I&#039;m not really sure what you&#039;re advocating here, but many small government folks will vote Republican on Super Tuesday because it will be a better option for them than voting Democrat.  

Think of a restaurant, sure I&#039;d rather have Cherry Coke, all things being considered, but given only a choice between Coke &amp; Pepsi, it&#039;s a no-brainer.

This is, me thinks, one of the difficulties of the 2-party system.

Now, Paul, what&#039;s up with all the hostility and name calling, dude?

E.g., 
&quot;brainless republican zombie&quot;
&quot;idiots&quot;
&quot;fascist&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8230; I&#8217;m picking up some edge from Paul.</p>
<p>1. I actually don&#8217;t call myself a Republican, but a Conservative with Libertarian leanings. I doubt Denny wants this to be the Obama Muslim forum, so I&#8217;ll just say I think there&#8217;s more to the Muslim thing.</p>
<p>2. I don&#8217;t know who all is accusing Hillary of Lesbianism, but I can contradict your absolute statement because I first heard that in &#8217;93 or &#8217;94, from a friend who was/is a staunch Democrat.  She just happened to work as an intern in the governor&#8217;s office in Little Rock while Bill was the governor.  I&#8217;ve heard it since and apparently you have too, but that was my first exposure to it.</p>
<p>3. Well, if Thompson&#8217;s rep comes to light, I&#8217;ll deal with it then.  But, I&#8217;ll share a lifelong Arkansas Republican friend&#8217;s thoughts on Huckabee:<br />
&#8220;Mike Huckabee is doo doo! He early released more violent criminals from prison onto the streets than maybe any other Gov. in Ark. He raised taxes like eating popcorn. And he was pretty much an overall bufoon!</p>
<p>Back in the day, as Lt. Gov running for US Senate, he was so far in the lead that no one could touch him. He gave up his senate bid to stay on as Gov. when the corrupt Ark. Gov got sent to prison. Why would anyone give up a sure Senate seat, arguably more influential than piddly Gov., to a liberal Dem? That was madness and a sure sign of his education space.</p>
<p>Mike Huckabee is a RINO folks.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying and I&#8217;ve heard similar stuff from other Arkansas folks.</p>
<p>4. Well, I&#8217;m not really sure what you&#8217;re advocating here, but many small government folks will vote Republican on Super Tuesday because it will be a better option for them than voting Democrat.  </p>
<p>Think of a restaurant, sure I&#8217;d rather have Cherry Coke, all things being considered, but given only a choice between Coke &amp; Pepsi, it&#8217;s a no-brainer.</p>
<p>This is, me thinks, one of the difficulties of the 2-party system.</p>
<p>Now, Paul, what&#8217;s up with all the hostility and name calling, dude?</p>
<p>E.g.,<br />
&#8220;brainless republican zombie&#8221;<br />
&#8220;idiots&#8221;<br />
&#8220;fascist&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) if you want to be a brainless republican zombie, then fine, but DON&#039;T make up lies about people on the other side.  Obama is a member of the UCC, and the last I checked, the UCC is a CHRISTIAN CHURCH.

2) the only people accusing Hilary of being a lesbian are the same idiots calling Obama THE CHRISTIAN a muslim.

3) Huckabee has a poor rep?  Wait till you hear more about Thompson.  About the only thing that Thompson has in common with Reagan is that they both slept a lot.

4) if you call yourself a fascist, sure vote for anyone in the republican party and have a happy day.  However, for those of you actually calling yourselves REPUBLICANS (that is...SMALL GOVERNMENT, heard of it?), you have two choices: back Ron Paul, or rename your party the hypocrite party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) if you want to be a brainless republican zombie, then fine, but DON&#8217;T make up lies about people on the other side.  Obama is a member of the UCC, and the last I checked, the UCC is a CHRISTIAN CHURCH.</p>
<p>2) the only people accusing Hilary of being a lesbian are the same idiots calling Obama THE CHRISTIAN a muslim.</p>
<p>3) Huckabee has a poor rep?  Wait till you hear more about Thompson.  About the only thing that Thompson has in common with Reagan is that they both slept a lot.</p>
<p>4) if you call yourself a fascist, sure vote for anyone in the republican party and have a happy day.  However, for those of you actually calling yourselves REPUBLICANS (that is&#8230;SMALL GOVERNMENT, heard of it?), you have two choices: back Ron Paul, or rename your party the hypocrite party.</p>
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		<title>By: GUNNY HARTMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GUNNY HARTMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Jones wrote: &quot;If Rudy gets the nomination then it does not matter to them who wins. The whole point of the threat is to get the GOP to NOT nominate Rudy.&quot;

True AND there are some in the GOP who are ready to &quot;send a message&quot; to the GOP leadership that their pro-life votes can&#039;t be assumed.  I&#039;ve even heard talk of &quot;mailing in&quot; this one to let them have 4 years of Hilary and having their rears handed to them in both houses so they might wake up.  Remember the backlack after &#039;92?

Don wrote: &quot;senators do not win the white house&quot;

Well, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s any legitimate reason to minimize Fred Thompson&#039;s chances.  After all, nobody&#039;s saying that about Hilary or about the Muslim Obama.

Incidentally, folks I know from Arkansas tell me Huck has a very poor reputation in his home state.

This is going to be a bizarre election, with a Mormon, a Muslim, an alleged Lesbian, and others all striving for the presidency.  What I find most intriguing is how they all are purporting themselves as &quot;people of faith.&quot; ... Not &quot;extreme&quot; or &quot;radical,&quot; but just enough to throw a bone to the rank &amp; file Christian who&#039;s been told that he/she can&#039;t vote for the atheist party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Jones wrote: &#8220;If Rudy gets the nomination then it does not matter to them who wins. The whole point of the threat is to get the GOP to NOT nominate Rudy.&#8221;</p>
<p>True AND there are some in the GOP who are ready to &#8220;send a message&#8221; to the GOP leadership that their pro-life votes can&#8217;t be assumed.  I&#8217;ve even heard talk of &#8220;mailing in&#8221; this one to let them have 4 years of Hilary and having their rears handed to them in both houses so they might wake up.  Remember the backlack after &#8217;92?</p>
<p>Don wrote: &#8220;senators do not win the white house&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s any legitimate reason to minimize Fred Thompson&#8217;s chances.  After all, nobody&#8217;s saying that about Hilary or about the Muslim Obama.</p>
<p>Incidentally, folks I know from Arkansas tell me Huck has a very poor reputation in his home state.</p>
<p>This is going to be a bizarre election, with a Mormon, a Muslim, an alleged Lesbian, and others all striving for the presidency.  What I find most intriguing is how they all are purporting themselves as &#8220;people of faith.&#8221; &#8230; Not &#8220;extreme&#8221; or &#8220;radical,&#8221; but just enough to throw a bone to the rank &amp; file Christian who&#8217;s been told that he/she can&#8217;t vote for the atheist party.</p>
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