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		<title>By: claudia</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/paige-and-dorothy-patterson-defend-homemaking-degree/#comment-50207</link>
		<dc:creator>claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you ever heard of The Martha Stewart Show? It is if fact the WHOLE of all Homemakers many talents and what in the 1950&#039;s was Home Economics included in Junior High school level general education requierments. It not only covered Personal hygine but basic first aid,banking,personal respect and social ediquette,cooking,sewing,housekeeping and organization.Goal setting and nutrition,community service. So what part of this can not be a useful Homemakers degree for mentoring youth and or working for a show as MS as a consoultant? that said who about an Honorary degree for women who have worked as homemakers, over worked,over looked and underpaid in money but rewarded for their exsistance in Creation. Just a prespective from an old Master in Home Economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you ever heard of The Martha Stewart Show? It is if fact the WHOLE of all Homemakers many talents and what in the 1950&#8242;s was Home Economics included in Junior High school level general education requierments. It not only covered Personal hygine but basic first aid,banking,personal respect and social ediquette,cooking,sewing,housekeeping and organization.Goal setting and nutrition,community service. So what part of this can not be a useful Homemakers degree for mentoring youth and or working for a show as MS as a consoultant? that said who about an Honorary degree for women who have worked as homemakers, over worked,over looked and underpaid in money but rewarded for their exsistance in Creation. Just a prespective from an old Master in Home Economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/paige-and-dorothy-patterson-defend-homemaking-degree/#comment-14602</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be critical, but poor &#039;ole Mrs. Patterson has gotta be one of the biggest jokes of the 21st century!  She has made a total mockery (along with her husband!) of the school I got my M.Div. from.  I literally took my diplomas off the wall and hid them... for fear of people laughing at me for having gone to SWBTS.. even thought I graduated in 1985!  PLEASE, stop mentioning the HOME EC stuff and take it off the degree options... now!!! 

The Pattersons are a laughing stock of the Academic field and the odd thing about is they do not even realize it... how sad is that?
Thanks and God Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be critical, but poor &#8216;ole Mrs. Patterson has gotta be one of the biggest jokes of the 21st century!  She has made a total mockery (along with her husband!) of the school I got my M.Div. from.  I literally took my diplomas off the wall and hid them&#8230; for fear of people laughing at me for having gone to SWBTS.. even thought I graduated in 1985!  PLEASE, stop mentioning the HOME EC stuff and take it off the degree options&#8230; now!!! </p>
<p>The Pattersons are a laughing stock of the Academic field and the odd thing about is they do not even realize it&#8230; how sad is that?<br />
Thanks and God Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: a B.A. in cooking and cleaning? &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>a B.A. in cooking and cleaning? &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Drs. Patterson defend homemaking degree [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/paige-and-dorothy-patterson-defend-homemaking-degree/#comment-13332</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick,

I protest. I bet Deborah knew how to sew clothes. What I want to know is how men are supposed to learn about fixing plumbing fixtures and things like that. There is nothing more attractive than a man who is handy around the house. But if the men aren&#039;t learning these things then it ought to be included in the women&#039;s course. Fixing a toilet is great deal more important than having children wear designer outfits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick,</p>
<p>I protest. I bet Deborah knew how to sew clothes. What I want to know is how men are supposed to learn about fixing plumbing fixtures and things like that. There is nothing more attractive than a man who is handy around the house. But if the men aren&#8217;t learning these things then it ought to be included in the women&#8217;s course. Fixing a toilet is great deal more important than having children wear designer outfits.</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/paige-and-dorothy-patterson-defend-homemaking-degree/#comment-13329</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article assumes the president, his wife, and the trustees at SWBTS have a correct understanding of BIBLICAL gender roles.  Deborah was a Judge.  I&#039;m thankful that Deborah wasn&#039;t at SWBTS&#039;s extension center in Palestine learning how to sew clothes when she arose and went with Barak to Kadesh in order to stamp out the Siserian threat.  Similarly, I&#039;m thankful that Paul opened up ministry opportunites other than baking cookies to Lydia, the merchant, after her converson.  I&#039;m sure Phoebe is really appreciative of Paul for entrusting her to deliver his letter to the church in Rome (Hey...isn&#039;t that the most significant theological treaty in the New Testament)...good thing she wasn&#039;t learning how to iron Paige Patterson&#039;s shirts at his Roman bath-house gettaway.  Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article assumes the president, his wife, and the trustees at SWBTS have a correct understanding of BIBLICAL gender roles.  Deborah was a Judge.  I&#8217;m thankful that Deborah wasn&#8217;t at SWBTS&#8217;s extension center in Palestine learning how to sew clothes when she arose and went with Barak to Kadesh in order to stamp out the Siserian threat.  Similarly, I&#8217;m thankful that Paul opened up ministry opportunites other than baking cookies to Lydia, the merchant, after her converson.  I&#8217;m sure Phoebe is really appreciative of Paul for entrusting her to deliver his letter to the church in Rome (Hey&#8230;isn&#8217;t that the most significant theological treaty in the New Testament)&#8230;good thing she wasn&#8217;t learning how to iron Paige Patterson&#8217;s shirts at his Roman bath-house gettaway.  Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: LeStourgeon Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Women Belong in the Home (Men, too)</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/paige-and-dorothy-patterson-defend-homemaking-degree/#comment-13328</link>
		<dc:creator>LeStourgeon Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Women Belong in the Home (Men, too)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For those of you who did not know, The College at Southwestern [Baptist Theological Seminary] is offering a Bachelor of Arts degree with a concentration in Homemaking (scroll down to find it). Lots of folks seem pretty upset about it. Since I&#8217;ve only seen one sane positive blog about it, I thought I&#8217;d weigh in via quick bullets. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For those of you who did not know, The College at Southwestern [Baptist Theological Seminary] is offering a Bachelor of Arts degree with a concentration in Homemaking (scroll down to find it). Lots of folks seem pretty upset about it. Since I&#8217;ve only seen one sane positive blog about it, I thought I&#8217;d weigh in via quick bullets. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dennyrburk</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennyrburk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all,

I&#039;m ready to re-enter the fray here. I&#039;ve been sort of busy. If you want, we can move this conversation up to the most recent post on this topic: http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=844.

Thanks for commenting!

Denny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ready to re-enter the fray here. I&#8217;ve been sort of busy. If you want, we can move this conversation up to the most recent post on this topic: <a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=844" rel="nofollow">http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=844</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting!</p>
<p>Denny</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this Morning&#039;s &quot;Today Show&quot; and I nearly fell out of my chair.  I now have a degree in Marketing that I struggled to get.  All my life I was told I have to get a college degree to get anywhere in life.  Getting out and pursuing a career was my biggest goal in life.  Now I am a Mom of three who sits at home all day and wishes that someone had clued her in on how to manage my household while my degree lays waste.  All I have to say is, when are you offering online courses???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this Morning&#8217;s &#8220;Today Show&#8221; and I nearly fell out of my chair.  I now have a degree in Marketing that I struggled to get.  All my life I was told I have to get a college degree to get anywhere in life.  Getting out and pursuing a career was my biggest goal in life.  Now I am a Mom of three who sits at home all day and wishes that someone had clued her in on how to manage my household while my degree lays waste.  All I have to say is, when are you offering online courses???</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since this thread is still active I want to ask how these tenants of the complementarian model are taught from scripture.


1. Men give strength and women receive it.

Prov.31:17

She girdeth her loins with strength, and maketh strong her arms.

2. Men provide and women nurture.

She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

3. Men initiate women respond. 

Ruth 3:3

Wash thyself therefore, and anoint thee, and put thy raiment upon thee, and get thee down to the threshing-floor; but make not thyself known unto the man, until he shall have done eating and drinking.

The Hebrew scriptures teach that women initiate the act which brings about child-bearing. Think of Tamar, Ruth, Hannah, Rachel.

Women make decisions for their children independently of their husbands. Think of Sarah, Rebecca, Bathsheba, Ruth. 

Women make judgments which men follow. Think of Deborah and Hulda.

Women have occupations and help men out with from their own resources. Think of Johanna, Lydia, Phoebe. 

Women are single, have occupations, contribute to society. 

They are Paul&#039;s providers and protectors. 

I sincerely hope that the course is designed to help women fulfill the scriptural model of women being providers and protectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this thread is still active I want to ask how these tenants of the complementarian model are taught from scripture.</p>
<p>1. Men give strength and women receive it.</p>
<p>Prov.31:17</p>
<p>She girdeth her loins with strength, and maketh strong her arms.</p>
<p>2. Men provide and women nurture.</p>
<p>She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.</p>
<p>3. Men initiate women respond. </p>
<p>Ruth 3:3</p>
<p>Wash thyself therefore, and anoint thee, and put thy raiment upon thee, and get thee down to the threshing-floor; but make not thyself known unto the man, until he shall have done eating and drinking.</p>
<p>The Hebrew scriptures teach that women initiate the act which brings about child-bearing. Think of Tamar, Ruth, Hannah, Rachel.</p>
<p>Women make decisions for their children independently of their husbands. Think of Sarah, Rebecca, Bathsheba, Ruth. </p>
<p>Women make judgments which men follow. Think of Deborah and Hulda.</p>
<p>Women have occupations and help men out with from their own resources. Think of Johanna, Lydia, Phoebe. </p>
<p>Women are single, have occupations, contribute to society. </p>
<p>They are Paul&#8217;s providers and protectors. </p>
<p>I sincerely hope that the course is designed to help women fulfill the scriptural model of women being providers and protectors.</p>
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		<title>By: Denny Burk &#187; Southwestern Homemaking Degree on NBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denny Burk &#187; Southwestern Homemaking Degree on NBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The College at Southwestern&#8217;s new homemaking degree has provoked a great deal of discussion under my previous post, &#8220;Drs. Patterson Defend Homemaking Degree.&#8221; This morning I watched NBC&#8217;s &#8220;Today Show&#8221; broadcast a story on the same topic. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The College at Southwestern&#8217;s new homemaking degree has provoked a great deal of discussion under my previous post, &#8220;Drs. Patterson Defend Homemaking Degree.&#8221; This morning I watched NBC&#8217;s &#8220;Today Show&#8221; broadcast a story on the same topic. [...]</p>
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