http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/my-favorite-passage-that%E2%80%99s-not-in-the-bible/

You will see one of the country’s finest text critics and Greek scholars defending that there’s no way it is original. Also, this is a view even help by most conservative scholars (I’m pretty sure you could probably include Denny in that list). I actually don’t have much of a problem with capital punishment, and think God uses it to bring justice to certain situations. It’s the Christian wishing people got capital punishment that is the problem. We shouldn’t wish harm on anybody, but we must forgiven them and trust that vengeance is God’s.

The accusers broke Torah by bringing her alone, that is why Jesus asked them who was without sin, as they all sinned in bringing her alone. The older figured it out first.

It was supposed to be a no-win situation for Jesus, if he said stone her then he broke Roman law and if he said do not, then he (supposedly) broke Jewish law, but the point is that was NOT Jewish law, they had interpreted it wrong.

however, in the future please address the point of my comment rather than a few statements. while you may not have ripped my words out of context, to treat parts of an argument as the whole while not addressing the main point is also intellectually irresponsible. i did not expand on the statements you address above because they were not the point of the post.

for clarification, however, i did state that it is the support of big tobacco that bothers me and that is not pro-life. this includes the marketing of cigarettes to young people, the shipment of tobacco products overseas to impoverished countries as a part of federal aid, and efforts to keep people in bondage to their unhealthy addictions so as to make a profit. surely you can agree that such objectives are wrong and are not in line with a truly pro-life stance. and to do so, i am not asking you to say that the democrats are right. i am asking you to rise to an ethic that surpasses even that of the republican or democratic party.

also, with regard to the war in iraq, i have already stated that i think the war is unjust and that i am a pacifist. so, it serves no purpose to remind me that people in iraq deserve life too. to make such a statement is to imply that i do not already think such a thing and is, again, intellectually irresponsible and unfair. i oppose the war in iraq largely for this very reason.

finally, the third statement you address is actually one of the weakest statements in my first post, but, again, it could hardly be considered a serious part of the overall point. i admit that the statement is an overgeneralization, but, again, it was not my main argument so i was not seeking to expound on it or rely on it. it is interesting though, that you decided to use this statement to get out your view on the death penalty (which, again, seems to have little bearing on the point of my post). but, i will address your statement nonetheless. i must confess that according to *your* view (i am not really sure that you speak on behalf of God here) i will face judgment for my opposition to the death penalty. and i suppose while i face that judgment, you will also face judgment for the lives of the innocent that have been taken as a result of mistaken death penalty sentences which is equally “innumerable and reprehensible.”

all that being said, this will be my last post because i do not see the conversation being a truly understanding one. i do not feel that any ground is being gained. this is in part because i do not see an acknowledgement of something other than a conservative/liberal breakdown of life in general. i was not here to try to change your mind or tell you how to think, but i was here to engage in your thoughts and better understand them. however, it seems as though you are here simply to refute my line of thinking rather than to seek understanding. i want to encourage you to feel free to comment on my post because i will read it. but i wanted to let you know that i will not be responding from this point forward. thank you for the time you have put in to reading and writing on my statements. keep seeking to glorify Christ in all you do, and i will do the same. thank you.

godspeed.

derek

It was not against Torah for the woman to live. The Torah specifies 2 circumstances, in one both were to be killed and in the other just the man; in neither was just the woman to be stoned. The accusers were violating Torah (sinning) by bring her by herself for judgment.

fair enough. Explanations are always much more welcomed than “witty” one liners.

“Evil is not supposed to be tolerated by the authorities.”

That can be accomplished in numerous ways. We just don’t have to be inconsistent in our attitudes about the value of life.