Comments on: More on the Rick Warren Controversy http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/ A commentary on theology, politics, and culture Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:54:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Prentice Park http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47658 Prentice Park Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:00:32 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47658 If we have to pick and choose who we are pray, that seems to be contrary to Jesus' teachings. Now, I understand the question here is NOT about whether we should pray for somebody or not but rather, is it appropriate for a Christian who has a different theological paradigm pray for somebody in a large public setting? I believe, we can always find a way to pray for somebody else, no matter how differing the perspectives are. Just a quick thought. If we have to pick and choose who we are pray, that seems to be contrary to Jesus’ teachings. Now, I understand the question here is NOT about whether we should pray for somebody or not but rather, is it appropriate for a Christian who has a different theological paradigm pray for somebody in a large public setting? I believe, we can always find a way to pray for somebody else, no matter how differing the perspectives are. Just a quick thought.

]]> By: JB http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47641 JB Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:17:38 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47641 Regardless, let us pray for Rick Warren, that he might pray in a manner that reflects rich glory upon Jesus. Regardless, let us pray for Rick Warren, that he might pray in a manner that reflects rich glory upon Jesus.

]]> By: Don http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47639 Don Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:03:18 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47639 December 19, 2008 Dear President-elect Obama, Your decision to invite Reverend Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at your inauguration alienates American atheists, humanists, agnostics and other nontheists. In an interview with Larry King in August, Warren expressed an unwillingness to ever vote for an atheist presidential candidate. Would you allow a speaker who expressed similar views about, for example, Jews or Muslims to participate in your inaugural? He has said the only reason nontheists are ethical is because his god makes them so, and that not believing in a god is intellectually dishonest. Your spokesperson has said that yours will be "the most inclusive, open, accessible inauguration in American history." How is opening the program with one Protestant Christian and closing it with another inclusive? You yourself said it would include a wide range of viewpoints. Who on your inaugural dais will express the viewpoints of not only the tens of millions of nontheistic Americans, but that majority of citizens who believe there is now too much religious influence in our politics and government? By choosing an intolerant religious leader to open your presidency, you are not creating change, but rather following the dismal tradition of your predecessor. Sincerely, Lori Lipman Brown Director Secular Coalition ---------- Inclusive is supposed to exclude? December 19, 2008

Dear President-elect Obama,

Your decision to invite Reverend Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at your inauguration alienates American atheists, humanists, agnostics and other nontheists.
In an interview with Larry King in August, Warren expressed an unwillingness to ever vote for an atheist presidential candidate. Would you allow a speaker who expressed similar views about, for example, Jews or Muslims to participate in your inaugural? He has said the only reason nontheists are ethical is because his god makes them so, and that not believing in a god is intellectually dishonest.

Your spokesperson has said that yours will be “the most inclusive, open, accessible inauguration in American history.” How is opening the program with one Protestant Christian and closing it with another inclusive? You yourself said it would include a wide range of viewpoints. Who on your inaugural dais will express the viewpoints of not only the tens of millions of nontheistic Americans, but that majority of citizens who believe there is now too much religious influence in our politics and government?

By choosing an intolerant religious leader to open your presidency, you are not creating change, but rather following the dismal tradition of your predecessor.

Sincerely,
Lori Lipman Brown
Director

Secular Coalition

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Inclusive is supposed to exclude?

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47637 Matt Svoboda Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:27:16 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47637 Darius, great word! Darius, great word!

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47636 Matt Svoboda Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:26:34 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47636 Darius, One some issues, you are right, he is pretty moderate. The issues of abortion and gay marriage I do not think he has a moderate stance. He seems to be as conservative as anyone on those 2 issues. Matt Darius,

One some issues, you are right, he is pretty moderate. The issues of abortion and gay marriage I do not think he has a moderate stance. He seems to be as conservative as anyone on those 2 issues.

Matt

]]> By: Rick http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47635 Rick Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:02:53 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47635 Well your right, you weren’t asked. The same kind of criticism was leveled at Billy Graham, you know the guy with his name on the evangelism school at SBTS. Well your right, you weren’t asked. The same kind of criticism was leveled at Billy Graham, you know the guy with his name on the evangelism school at SBTS.

]]> By: Darius T http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47634 Darius T Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:57:56 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47634 Don, that article IS a commentary, obviously she's going to give her position. If it were supposed to be a neutral news piece, then it would be much more concerning. As such, lefties almost always assume their position is right and won't bother to give reasons or debate the issue. That's why they have routinely run away from debates, especially those on global warming. Logic is not the basis for their views, emotion is. And deep down, they know it. Don, that article IS a commentary, obviously she’s going to give her position. If it were supposed to be a neutral news piece, then it would be much more concerning. As such, lefties almost always assume their position is right and won’t bother to give reasons or debate the issue. That’s why they have routinely run away from debates, especially those on global warming. Logic is not the basis for their views, emotion is. And deep down, they know it.

]]> By: Darius T http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47632 Darius T Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:06:41 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47632 "how conservative this guy is." To be fair, Warren isn't super conservative. He's moderately so. “how conservative this guy is.”

To be fair, Warren isn’t super conservative. He’s moderately so.

]]> By: Don Johnson http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47631 Don Johnson Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:04:12 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47631 http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/18/kolbert.warren/index.html?iref=mpstoryview is a non-evangelical with concerns about Obama picking Warren. One thing I noticed is that the piece is carefully crafted to get the reader to just assume her position is correct and Warren's is bogus. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/18/kolbert.warren/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

is a non-evangelical with concerns about Obama picking Warren.

One thing I noticed is that the piece is carefully crafted to get the reader to just assume her position is correct and Warren’s is bogus.

]]> By: Matt Svoboda http://www.dennyburk.com/more-on-the-rick-warren-controversy/#comment-47629 Matt Svoboda Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:08:31 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3077#comment-47629 It seems everyone is in general agreement here... This may be a first, but I am happy to be in agreement as well. I think Paul makes a great point that Obama could of easily chosen a pastor everyone likes, but he didn't. I really appreciate Rick Warren and I think, for him, he made the right decision. I do pray Warren can have at least a small influence on Obama! It seems everyone is in general agreement here… This may be a first, but I am happy to be in agreement as well. I think Paul makes a great point that Obama could of easily chosen a pastor everyone likes, but he didn’t. I really appreciate Rick Warren and I think, for him, he made the right decision. I do pray Warren can have at least a small influence on Obama!

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