Sorry for not clearly explaining what I meant. Erasmus did do some good and does not deserve to be casted out with groups like the Arians. But his and Moore’s dishonesty and word games to try and prevent the Bible to be translated into common language should be exposed.

I’m perplexed by your reference to Erasmus. I honestly have never heard Erasmus condemned and certainly don’t consider him in the same league with Arius. What gives bro? Can you help me out a little here?

Let’s stop acting like either of these guys is without their serious theological or ethical flaws. For my part, I don’t think I’ll vote for either of them. But let us not demonize those who disagree with us – McClaren or otherwise.

Just some thoughts…

Personally, these are the candidates that would have had me actually thinking about a vote for Obama:

Jim Webb
Bob Casey, Jr.
any pro-life democrat (yes they do exist, thank you very much)

Biden, on the other hand, is simply an interesting choice. I’ll be looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

you’re absolutely right.

Both sides of these debates need to take a breather and realize who they’re talking to.

There are very few people who comment on here who almost never level an ad hominem attack at someone AND realize that liberal Christians are still, guess what, Christians.

I threw out the plea to hug it out/put an olive branch out there/whatever, and got mocked by TUAD for it.

So, Todd, I don’t think you could be any more right.

Of course, those on the theological left need to quit thinking that the theological right is living in the dark ages.

Of course, those on the theological right need to quit thinking that the theological left are all going to hell in a stretched out Toyota Prius limousine.

Those on the political right need to realize that those on the left, especially those who would be around enough righties to hear all of the arguments (like, you know, the ones that belong to evangelical churches) have thought through their positions and come to them thoughtfully and prayerfully. At least most of the time, anyway.

Those on the political left need to realize that those on the right really don’t hate the poor or the minorities of American and the world. At least most of the time, anyway.

In other words, it’s okay for Darius and I to disagree. And frankly, from what I’ve seen, about the only things that we’re going to agree on are the fact that God is sovereign and that conservative theology is good theology.

However, it’s not okay for us to wail on each other for our disagreements.

And, Matt, it’s absolutely NOT okay to use the word “liberal” as an insult. Ever. Sorry.

Just thinking…

John, I didn’t know you were that young.