Comments on: LSU Is Still the Best Team in the Nation http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/ Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:03:48 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: D.J. Williams http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19741 D.J. Williams Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:39:48 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19741 Well, so much for USF. The sad thing is that because of their non-establishment status, one-loss USF won't get a second chance, unlike one-loss LSU or Oklahoma (losers to Colorado, who one can rather convincingly argue is not as good as Rutgers). Let's hope that the increasing parity in college football this year will illuminate the insanity of, as Micah put it, arbitrarily choosing the two teams who get to play for the championship. Well, so much for USF. The sad thing is that because of their non-establishment status, one-loss USF won’t get a second chance, unlike one-loss LSU or Oklahoma (losers to Colorado, who one can rather convincingly argue is not as good as Rutgers). Let’s hope that the increasing parity in college football this year will illuminate the insanity of, as Micah put it, arbitrarily choosing the two teams who get to play for the championship.

]]> By: Micah http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19499 Micah Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:36:55 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19499 by the way, USF is very good by the way, USF is very good

]]> By: Micah http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19497 Micah Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:24:41 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19497 Ok, this discussion has gotten out of hand. Let me breathe reason back into view. Randomly, a few rebuttals: 1. Just because a person makes a statement that is a) obviously false or b) false by your judgement, that person is not necessarily a poor critic nor should that person be wholly dismissed. That said, Cowherd does have some pretty stange ideas from time to time. 2. A win, especially a 3OT win at home, does not necessarily a better team make. Were that true, Colorado might be the best team in the Big 12, Stanford might be the best team in the Pac 10, and the SEC would self-destruct in an endless logical loop in which Kentucky is better than LSU is better than South Carolina is better than Kentucky is better than LSU is better than South Carolina is better than Kentucky is better than LSU is better than South Carolina is better than Kentucky... 3. In the NCAA there are 23 sports and 39 separate championships without differentiating between divisions. Out of those championship processes, only one single instance pairs two teams arbitrarily chosen for the championship. Given that divisions II and III football, as well as every other NCAA sport, chooses a tournament or olympic style playoff, no amount of logic explains why the current bowl system produces a better result. Not even a similarly good result. Ok, this discussion has gotten out of hand. Let me breathe reason back into view. Randomly, a few rebuttals:

1. Just because a person makes a statement that is a) obviously false or b) false by your judgement, that person is not necessarily a poor critic nor should that person be wholly dismissed. That said, Cowherd does have some pretty stange ideas from time to time.

2. A win, especially a 3OT win at home, does not necessarily a better team make. Were that true, Colorado might be the best team in the Big 12, Stanford might be the best team in the Pac 10, and the SEC would self-destruct in an endless logical loop in which Kentucky is better than LSU is better than South Carolina is better than Kentucky is better than LSU is better than South Carolina is better than Kentucky is better than LSU is better than South Carolina is better than Kentucky…

3. In the NCAA there are 23 sports and 39 separate championships without differentiating between divisions. Out of those championship processes, only one single instance pairs two teams arbitrarily chosen for the championship. Given that divisions II and III football, as well as every other NCAA sport, chooses a tournament or olympic style playoff, no amount of logic explains why the current bowl system produces a better result. Not even a similarly good result.

]]> By: D.J. Williams http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19368 D.J. Williams Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:24:16 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19368 Umm, what about South Florida? Undefeated, with wins over SEC big shot Auburn (at Auburn) and top 5 ranked West Virginia. Plays in the Big East, which is viewed as a lightweight despite going 5-0 in bowl games last year. If USF's name were something like "Miami," "Michigan," or "Tennessee," we wouldn't even be having a discussion about who's #1. There's a lot of football still to be played, but right now USF's resume is easily the best. BTW: LSU fans, how do you justify even being ranked ahead of Kentucky, who has the same record as you, plays in the same conference as you, and BEAT you? Disclaimer: I am neither a USF or UK fan. Umm, what about South Florida?

Undefeated, with wins over SEC big shot Auburn (at Auburn) and top 5 ranked West Virginia. Plays in the Big East, which is viewed as a lightweight despite going 5-0 in bowl games last year. If USF’s name were something like “Miami,” “Michigan,” or “Tennessee,” we wouldn’t even be having a discussion about who’s #1. There’s a lot of football still to be played, but right now USF’s resume is easily the best.

BTW: LSU fans, how do you justify even being ranked ahead of Kentucky, who has the same record as you, plays in the same conference as you, and BEAT you?

Disclaimer: I am neither a USF or UK fan.

]]> By: Don http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19192 Don Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:38:10 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19192 Denny I know what a LSU fan you are but they did not play the 4th period like a # 1 team... They played not to lose... I think they will be in the big game if they win the SEC title game vs who knows.. Ohio State has not played any of their tough ones in the 10 yet. It may come down to LSU USC or LSU Okie. Unless some of those still undefeated teams stay unbeaten.. I think they all will stumble... Denny I know what a LSU fan you are but they did not play the 4th period like a # 1 team… They played not to lose… I think they will be in the big game if they win the SEC title game vs who knows.. Ohio State has not played any of their tough ones in the 10 yet. It may come down to LSU USC or LSU Okie. Unless some of those still undefeated teams stay unbeaten.. I think they all will stumble…

]]> By: Daniel http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19173 Daniel Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:56:22 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19173 A playoff takes away from the rest of the season. Look at basketball. It doesn't matter how well you do in the season, if you get hot at the right time of the year, you win. We have a playoff--it's the season. A playoff takes away from the rest of the season.

Look at basketball. It doesn’t matter how well you do in the season, if you get hot at the right time of the year, you win.

We have a playoff–it’s the season.

]]> By: Billy http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19168 Billy Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:00:11 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19168 A methodical system to determine championship game participants for a championship that is by nature, arbitrary...is ludicrous. However, should an 8, 12, 16 team playoff system be implemented; controversy could only be expected over the last team to get in versus the one left out. I believe a remedy for the current conundrum would be for the Major Conferences to mandate scheduling pre-conference exhibition opponents from other Major BCS Conferences; therefore reducing the number of undefeated or one-loss teams. This would keep the Ohio State and Boston College teams of this year from being ranked ahead of LSU or Oklahoma teams, which is clearly more talented. Not going to solve the problem, but might alleviate somewhat. A methodical system to determine championship game participants for a championship that is by nature, arbitrary…is ludicrous. However, should an 8, 12, 16 team playoff system be implemented; controversy could only be expected over the last team to get in versus the one left out. I believe a remedy for the current conundrum would be for the Major Conferences to mandate scheduling pre-conference exhibition opponents from other Major BCS Conferences; therefore reducing the number of undefeated or one-loss teams. This would keep the Ohio State and Boston College teams of this year from being ranked ahead of LSU or Oklahoma teams, which is clearly more talented. Not going to solve the problem, but might alleviate somewhat.

]]> By: micah http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19150 micah Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:55:27 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19150 actually, what you're saying is: that's what makes college football different from every other iteration of sport or competition practiced by man. there's a slight difference, and it's an arbitrary difference not found in any other championship process. actually, what you’re saying is: that’s what makes college football different from every other iteration of sport or competition practiced by man.

there’s a slight difference, and it’s an arbitrary difference not found in any other championship process.

]]> By: GLW Johnson http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19149 GLW Johnson Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:49:55 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19149 Denny I was listening to Colin Cowherd's radio program on Monday while running some errands, but turned him off when he threw in his two cents on the interview 60 Minutes did with Joel Osteen- saying he really likes him and that Osteen's critics are phonies. Good grief, Cowhard's stock dropped off the charts with me after that lame-brain remark.I wouldn't trust his judgment on anything! Denny
I was listening to Colin Cowherd’s radio program on Monday while running some errands, but turned him off when he threw in his two cents on the interview 60 Minutes did with Joel Osteen- saying he really likes him and that Osteen’s critics are phonies. Good grief, Cowhard’s stock dropped off the charts with me after that lame-brain remark.I wouldn’t trust his judgment on anything!

]]> By: Daniel http://www.dennyburk.com/lsu-is-still-the-best-team-in-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-19130 Daniel Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:53:42 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=905#comment-19130 that's what makes college football different than the NFL--if you make a mistake, you're pretty much out of the picture. Undefeated teams should get the first shot at the BCS championship. If there's not two undefeated teams, then pick the best one-loss team to play. That's how the system works. that’s what makes college football different than the NFL–if you make a mistake, you’re pretty much out of the picture.

Undefeated teams should get the first shot at the BCS championship. If there’s not two undefeated teams, then pick the best one-loss team to play.

That’s how the system works.

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