Comments on: Driscoll and the Calvinist Revival http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/ Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:59:17 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: » Are Calvinism & Complementarianism Related? | Denny Burk http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-48339 » Are Calvinism & Complementarianism Related? | Denny Burk Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:05:17 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-48339 [...] couple of weeks ago, we noted Molly Worthen’s piece in the New York Times about Mark Driscoll and the revival of Calvinism among [...] [...] couple of weeks ago, we noted Molly Worthen’s piece in the New York Times about Mark Driscoll and the revival of Calvinism among [...]

]]> By: Aguirre http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-48100 Aguirre Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:44:12 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-48100 That was a fair, balanced, solid article by Ms. Worthen. That was a fair, balanced, solid article by Ms. Worthen.

]]> By: jigawatt http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47968 jigawatt Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:18:18 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47968 Brian, I joined that group on facebook about a year ago. I hardly ever look at what people are saying on it - I just like the name. Brian,

I joined that group on facebook about a year ago. I hardly ever look at what people are saying on it – I just like the name.

]]> By: Brian Krieger http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47962 Brian Krieger Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:21:14 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47962 Good question, Mr. Thomas! I would venture that she is indicating that (taking a shot at) Calvinists believe that they are persecuted and if they are persecuted, they must be going to heaven. It seems like Ms. Worthen wrote her piece on soundbites, wikipedia and attending one Sunday’s services. While there’s a ton in the article that makes me get a puzzled look, the article says <em>“[t]raditional evangelical theology falls apart in the face of real tragedy…”</em> I think that is sort of true. I think prosperity gospel (prosperity-centered “theology”) does. Evangelicals (those committed to bible doctrine rather than bible guidelines) do not. In many folks’ minds, prosperity = evangelical = business plan-based church. Funny quote: <em>“New converts stay in touch via blogs and Facebook groups with names like…‘Calvinism: The Group That Chooses You.’”</em> Good question, Mr. Thomas! I would venture that she is indicating that (taking a shot at) Calvinists believe that they are persecuted and if they are persecuted, they must be going to heaven. It seems like Ms. Worthen wrote her piece on soundbites, wikipedia and attending one Sunday’s services.

While there’s a ton in the article that makes me get a puzzled look, the article says “[t]raditional evangelical theology falls apart in the face of real tragedy…” I think that is sort of true. I think prosperity gospel (prosperity-centered “theology”) does. Evangelicals (those committed to bible doctrine rather than bible guidelines) do not. In many folks’ minds, prosperity = evangelical = business plan-based church.

Funny quote:

“New converts stay in touch via blogs and Facebook groups with names like…‘Calvinism: The Group That Chooses You.’”

]]> By: Darius T http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47953 Darius T Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:32:26 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47953 :) :)

]]> By: Russ Ware http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47951 Russ Ware Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:13:11 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47951 Darius... Well played, sir. :-) Darius…

Well played, sir. :-)

]]> By: Darius T http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47948 Darius T Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:04:08 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47948 "Read this article, and then poke around a little more if you like… he’s basically the edgy, hip version of John MacArthur if you ask me. The same power, popularity and vitriol… without the suit." Yeah, he's pretty solid. “Read this article, and then poke around a little more if you like… he’s basically the edgy, hip version of John MacArthur if you ask me. The same power, popularity and vitriol… without the suit.”

Yeah, he’s pretty solid.

]]> By: Josh Orr http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47947 Josh Orr Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:43:33 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47947 I enjoyed the article. I don't expect much of any secular writer to explain calvinism or predestination well and sense a negative feel at points but overall I think the article did a good job of explaining what is different about Driscoll from the evangelicals (in the negative sense) he had tried to separate himself from. (I do not think that all or even most evangelicals are bad. I would probably label myself as one. I am just referring to the negative aspects of american evangelicalism.) I enjoyed the article. I don’t expect much of any secular writer to explain calvinism or predestination well and sense a negative feel at points but overall I think the article did a good job of explaining what is different about Driscoll from the evangelicals (in the negative sense) he had tried to separate himself from.

(I do not think that all or even most evangelicals are bad. I would probably label myself as one. I am just referring to the negative aspects of american evangelicalism.)

]]> By: Charles Halton http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47944 Charles Halton Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:45:11 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47944 Note to self: I guess my theology needs to be judged and constructed on the basis of "fashion" and "American values." ;) Note to self: I guess my theology needs to be judged and constructed on the basis of “fashion” and “American values.” ;)

]]> By: Russ Ware http://www.dennyburk.com/driscoll-and-the-calvinist-revival/#comment-47941 Russ Ware Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:02:35 +0000 http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=3288#comment-47941 <i>"On the one hand Driscoll is the coolest and most relevant personality one can imagine..."</i> Driscoll is also one of the most disturbing pastoral figures to gain such mass popularity I can think of. And I am not so much talking about his theology. I may not agree with John Piper on all points of theology, but I still have great respect for him. I've kept up, to some extent, with Driscoll ever since I saw him years ago at a sort of 'proto-emergent' conference in New Mexico. Doug Pagitt and Mark Driscoll were on the same team that week. Those were the days. ;-) I always expected that Doug would get further and further from the reservation... and he has... and that's disturbing too. But I never expected Driscoll to become what he has become. I don't even know how to describe it. Read this article, and then poke around a little more if you like... he's basically the edgy, hip version of John MacArthur if you ask me. The same power, popularity and vitriol... without the suit. “On the one hand Driscoll is the coolest and most relevant personality one can imagine…”

Driscoll is also one of the most disturbing pastoral figures to gain such mass popularity I can think of. And I am not so much talking about his theology. I may not agree with John Piper on all points of theology, but I still have great respect for him.

I’ve kept up, to some extent, with Driscoll ever since I saw him years ago at a sort of ‘proto-emergent’ conference in New Mexico. Doug Pagitt and Mark Driscoll were on the same team that week. Those were the days. ;-)

I always expected that Doug would get further and further from the reservation… and he has… and that’s disturbing too.

But I never expected Driscoll to become what he has become. I don’t even know how to describe it.

Read this article, and then poke around a little more if you like… he’s basically the edgy, hip version of John MacArthur if you ask me. The same power, popularity and vitriol… without the suit.

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