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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-40521</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh please, Darius...

Dobson, no doubt, is a wise man.

But he&#039;s also a man that lies about candidates that he doesn&#039;t like.

The way he put words in McCain&#039;s mouth over McCain&#039;s voting against Bush&#039;s tax cuts ALONE shows what a dispicable and power hungry guy he is.

He&#039;s not a conservative guy looking to put or keep socially conservative politicians in office, he&#039;s a Republican shill.

Much like Obama is a Democratic one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh please, Darius&#8230;</p>
<p>Dobson, no doubt, is a wise man.</p>
<p>But he&#8217;s also a man that lies about candidates that he doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>The way he put words in McCain&#8217;s mouth over McCain&#8217;s voting against Bush&#8217;s tax cuts ALONE shows what a dispicable and power hungry guy he is.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not a conservative guy looking to put or keep socially conservative politicians in office, he&#8217;s a Republican shill.</p>
<p>Much like Obama is a Democratic one.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites..  and Divides</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-40520</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites..  and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto with Darius about Kuo&#039;s false comparisons between Barack and Dobson.  They&#039;re not even close to being equivalent, nor close to even being inverse mirror images of each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto with Darius about Kuo&#8217;s false comparisons between Barack and Dobson.  They&#8217;re not even close to being equivalent, nor close to even being inverse mirror images of each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-40517</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, Kuo is way off base if he really believes (I doubt it, he&#039;s just being disingenuous) that Dobson is REPLACING those attributes of the spiritual life with political work.  If he does believe that, then he is just plain daft, since it only takes listening to Focus on the Family for a couple days (at most) to know that they put the spiritual disciplines quite high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, Kuo is way off base if he really believes (I doubt it, he&#8217;s just being disingenuous) that Dobson is REPLACING those attributes of the spiritual life with political work.  If he does believe that, then he is just plain daft, since it only takes listening to Focus on the Family for a couple days (at most) to know that they put the spiritual disciplines quite high.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is a common mistake, a common temptation - the temptation to take the very hard work of the spiritual life - living humbly, loving your enemies, putting others first, forgiving always - and replace it with the easy work of politics - the promise that this policy or plan will bring about a sort of spiritual nirvana.&quot;

I doubt that Dobson thinks this, but then again, I have begun having my doubts about Kuo recently.  This just settles it.  Dobson (and other Christian conservatives) don&#039;t believe that we will bring about a spiritual nirvana here on earth.  We just want to make it as safe and livable until we go to the real nirvana.  But I do agree, some lefty Christians, like Obama, believe we can have the nirvana here on earth BEFORE Christ comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is a common mistake, a common temptation &#8211; the temptation to take the very hard work of the spiritual life &#8211; living humbly, loving your enemies, putting others first, forgiving always &#8211; and replace it with the easy work of politics &#8211; the promise that this policy or plan will bring about a sort of spiritual nirvana.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt that Dobson thinks this, but then again, I have begun having my doubts about Kuo recently.  This just settles it.  Dobson (and other Christian conservatives) don&#8217;t believe that we will bring about a spiritual nirvana here on earth.  We just want to make it as safe and livable until we go to the real nirvana.  But I do agree, some lefty Christians, like Obama, believe we can have the nirvana here on earth BEFORE Christ comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-40495</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From David Kuo comes this very rare brilliant insight on one of the worst websites that I&#039;ve ever encountered (beliefnet)...

&lt;b&gt;Meet Barack Dobson&lt;/b&gt;

How different are they? Really? James Dobson and Barack Obama? 

On the face of it there is little, save their shared humanity, that seems to unite the two men. From their skin color to their positions on abortion, gay marriage, poverty, the role of government, from their views on the separation of church and state to their positions on the Iraq War, the men are about as far apart as men can get.

But appearances are deceiving. The men are actually very, very similar. (And this goes beyond their common love of basketball).

Both men see their religious faith as one of their primary political weapons. They take that faith and move in opposite directions, but their philosophy, their spirituality is very similar. 

Dr. Dobson attacked Sen. Obama for having a flawed view - a deliberately skewed view - of Biblical theology &quot;deliberately distorting the Bible,&quot; &quot;dragging biblical understanding through the gutter,&quot; &quot;willfully trying to confuse people,&quot; and having a &quot;fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution.&quot; Obama responded by saying Dobson either hadn&#039;t read his speech (at a Sojourners event on poverty) or was just trying to score political points.

That back and forth, however, is simply the exchange of men who long ago decided that their faith was a tool for material ends. 

It is a common mistake, a common temptation - the temptation to take the very hard work of the spiritual life - living humbly, loving your enemies, putting others first, forgiving always - and replace it with the easy work of politics - the promise that this policy or plan will bring about a sort of spiritual nirvana. 

That is what unites Obama and Dobson. That they take those politics in different directions is incidental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From David Kuo comes this very rare brilliant insight on one of the worst websites that I&#8217;ve ever encountered (beliefnet)&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Meet Barack Dobson</b></p>
<p>How different are they? Really? James Dobson and Barack Obama? </p>
<p>On the face of it there is little, save their shared humanity, that seems to unite the two men. From their skin color to their positions on abortion, gay marriage, poverty, the role of government, from their views on the separation of church and state to their positions on the Iraq War, the men are about as far apart as men can get.</p>
<p>But appearances are deceiving. The men are actually very, very similar. (And this goes beyond their common love of basketball).</p>
<p>Both men see their religious faith as one of their primary political weapons. They take that faith and move in opposite directions, but their philosophy, their spirituality is very similar. </p>
<p>Dr. Dobson attacked Sen. Obama for having a flawed view &#8211; a deliberately skewed view &#8211; of Biblical theology &#8220;deliberately distorting the Bible,&#8221; &#8220;dragging biblical understanding through the gutter,&#8221; &#8220;willfully trying to confuse people,&#8221; and having a &#8220;fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution.&#8221; Obama responded by saying Dobson either hadn&#8217;t read his speech (at a Sojourners event on poverty) or was just trying to score political points.</p>
<p>That back and forth, however, is simply the exchange of men who long ago decided that their faith was a tool for material ends. </p>
<p>It is a common mistake, a common temptation &#8211; the temptation to take the very hard work of the spiritual life &#8211; living humbly, loving your enemies, putting others first, forgiving always &#8211; and replace it with the easy work of politics &#8211; the promise that this policy or plan will bring about a sort of spiritual nirvana. </p>
<p>That is what unites Obama and Dobson. That they take those politics in different directions is incidental.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-39338</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Both deny portions of the Bible, which is dangerous (since it makes God out to be a liar), but at the same time, they are generally loving and Christ-like in their behavior and arguments, which cannot be said of someone like Wallis, who is vile in much of what he says.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yet ponder this...  this makes their aberrant doctrine and teaching all the more dangerous, insidious, and subtle because they make it more &quot;palatable&quot;.

As Pastor Tommy Nelson said, &quot;It&#039;s Satan&#039;s new ploy....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Both deny portions of the Bible, which is dangerous (since it makes God out to be a liar), but at the same time, they are generally loving and Christ-like in their behavior and arguments, which cannot be said of someone like Wallis, who is vile in much of what he says.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yet ponder this&#8230;  this makes their aberrant doctrine and teaching all the more dangerous, insidious, and subtle because they make it more &#8220;palatable&#8221;.</p>
<p>As Pastor Tommy Nelson said, &#8220;It&#8217;s Satan&#8217;s new ploy&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-39306</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 1 Peter 3:15 is talking about something different than false theology or false teaching.  It is discussing the need to be ready and willing to share the gospel with the lost.  But as for the rest of the verses you mentioned, especially those regarding gentleness, yes, something along the lines of what you said in #37.  If someone appears open-minded and willing to retract and repent their false teaching or beliefs, then deal very gently with them, lest you drive them away with overly harsh criticism.  What we&#039;re talking about here is Jim Wallis and his consistent hypocritical and intolerant criticism of other Christians.  He has not shown a spirit of humility or repentance for his vile comments in the past, and is now to the point where he actually does the very thing that he condemns.  By their fruit you shall know them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 1 Peter 3:15 is talking about something different than false theology or false teaching.  It is discussing the need to be ready and willing to share the gospel with the lost.  But as for the rest of the verses you mentioned, especially those regarding gentleness, yes, something along the lines of what you said in #37.  If someone appears open-minded and willing to retract and repent their false teaching or beliefs, then deal very gently with them, lest you drive them away with overly harsh criticism.  What we&#8217;re talking about here is Jim Wallis and his consistent hypocritical and intolerant criticism of other Christians.  He has not shown a spirit of humility or repentance for his vile comments in the past, and is now to the point where he actually does the very thing that he condemns.  By their fruit you shall know them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MatthewS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatthewS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darius,

Thanks for your response. I was curious to know what you would say.

I think you are saying that there is a line, and when someone crosses it, you are entitled (obligated?) to be harsh in rebuking them.

I am curious to know how 1 Pet 3:15 applies here. Would you say that you only need to be gentle and respectful to someone who is asking you - meaning they are interesting in what you have to say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darius,</p>
<p>Thanks for your response. I was curious to know what you would say.</p>
<p>I think you are saying that there is a line, and when someone crosses it, you are entitled (obligated?) to be harsh in rebuking them.</p>
<p>I am curious to know how 1 Pet 3:15 applies here. Would you say that you only need to be gentle and respectful to someone who is asking you &#8211; meaning they are interesting in what you have to say?</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://www.dennyburk.com/dobson-says-obama-distorts-the-scripture/#comment-39297</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, you can&#039;t just quote proof texts and expect to get away with it. :)

Yes, those verses are great and needing more application in my own life, but what about the times where Paul rebukes Peter, Jesus rebukes the Pharisees, and Jesus rebukes Peter (quite harshly, calling him, in effect, a tool of Satan)?  When one is in deep error (and especially if they are apparently unwilling to repent of that error), they should be rebuked, harshly if necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, you can&#8217;t just quote proof texts and expect to get away with it. <img src='http://www.dennyburk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, those verses are great and needing more application in my own life, but what about the times where Paul rebukes Peter, Jesus rebukes the Pharisees, and Jesus rebukes Peter (quite harshly, calling him, in effect, a tool of Satan)?  When one is in deep error (and especially if they are apparently unwilling to repent of that error), they should be rebuked, harshly if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TUAD, honestly, I&#039;m not sure if I would use similar rhetoric about the egalitarian crowd.  While I do believe that they are in significant error, I also don&#039;t know that the path they are on is a &quot;deadly cancer,&quot; at least any more than someone who denies that God created the world.  Both deny portions of the Bible, which is dangerous (since it makes God out to be a liar), but at the same time, they are generally loving and Christ-like in their behavior and arguments, which cannot be said of someone like Wallis, who is vile in much of what he says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TUAD, honestly, I&#8217;m not sure if I would use similar rhetoric about the egalitarian crowd.  While I do believe that they are in significant error, I also don&#8217;t know that the path they are on is a &#8220;deadly cancer,&#8221; at least any more than someone who denies that God created the world.  Both deny portions of the Bible, which is dangerous (since it makes God out to be a liar), but at the same time, they are generally loving and Christ-like in their behavior and arguments, which cannot be said of someone like Wallis, who is vile in much of what he says.</p>
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